Popular Post mrsmackpaul Posted October 11, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2017 I was out and about on the hwy a couple of days ago (yes I am allowed out every now and then) anyway a thought occurred to me This truck with its super poxy mirrors and the like made to look as ugly as a hat full of ass holes in the so called name of fuel economy, does all this poxy plastic crap work because as I drive along the Hwys in Australia I noticed that not only dont Australian Macks have this crap hanging off them we put proper mirrors and big air intakes up each side on new Mack Tridents and Superliners and our motors have a different chip to give more power and fuel economy is just as good and we pull bigger weights So does this poxy plastic snot hanging off the truck help at all or is it some pimple faced fresh out of uni design from someone thats never driven trucks for a dollar The new stand up cabs a winner for sure and is long over due but I dont think people are dumb enough for the plastic gimmicks or maybe they are Which looks more like a real truck this or this piece of snot Paul 2 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51054-volvo-introduces-new-mack-%E2%80%9Canthem%E2%80%9D-on-highway-tractor/page/2/#findComment-382216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 Paul, between the two, I personally feel that only the Trident is an attractive looking truck. There is a need for aerodynamic trucks in many applications, but they can be designed aesthetically to have a reasonable appearance. Volvo's new Anthem is a done-on-the-cheap rehash of the Pinnacle, which was a 2006 Volvo done-on-the-cheap rehash of the Vision, which was a 1999 second generation rehash of the CH introduced in 1988, which was first penned in 1983. The "all-new" Mack Anthem? Not. The headlamp modules remind me of those on the Griswold's Wagon Queen Family Truckster station wagon in the movie "Vacation". The grille styling reminds me of a Panasonic "Toughbook" laptop. “We have helped build America [Volvo?],” proclaimed Mack president Denny Slagle, referring to the company’s 117-year heritage. “We have arrived at an important milestone. This launch should be seen as a new day, a new start, a game changer for our [America's or Sweden's?] beloved Mack brand.” (https://www.todaystrucking.com/mack-sings-praises-of-new-anthem) Sweden's Volvo stamps an American flag next to the Anthem name on the truck’s badge. Strange. Do Toyota or Honda stamp an American flag on their cars? Call a spade a spade. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51054-volvo-introduces-new-mack-%E2%80%9Canthem%E2%80%9D-on-highway-tractor/page/2/#findComment-382242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 I find the whole thing of "the all new what ever it is" and its just had a new grill or whatever other cosmetic change a bit insulting. When they went from the B model to the R model it looked like a all new truck the same when they went to the CH model it looked like a all new truck. Now try as they might this is not a all new truck,it has had some major improvements namely the stand up cab and sleeper but all the rest isn't really that much of a game changer. Had they have put some major up grades in that are game changers things would be different but sad truth is there isnt and this I feel is wasted opportunity. Dont get me wrong the CH cab is a good cab as is the ACCO cab that is made in Australia for International truck, but International Australia dont go on about a all new truck. They instead talk about what upgrades and how good that cab still is in todays market, they dont treat the buy public like fools, they play to its strengths and it is till a good seller even today 40 something years later. Maybe a lesson there for Mack. I remember when Harley Davidson nearly went broke in the late 70's I think it was trying to play everyone else's game instead of doing what they did best ( build big uncomfortable thumpers). Anyway they had a major change in their direction and started making what they made good and made it even better. They proved that you can make something and make it well and charge a bucket load for it and still have a huge waiting list of new orders. Also Kenworth Australia I think have a 9 month waiting list for a new truck, they dont make super slippery poxy thing they make trucks that look like a truck and sound like a truck and also are cheap to run as do Mack Australia. Should be some lessons there. People will tell you what they want if you listen. They old V8 E9 ValuelIners out here have sold for over $100,000 in recent times, that's a lot of money for a truck 30 plus years, surely there's a lesson there, similar figures are received for good old Superliners as well. Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51054-volvo-introduces-new-mack-%E2%80%9Canthem%E2%80%9D-on-highway-tractor/page/2/#findComment-382265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Good points. It says something of how well the CH was designed that it's still competitive after three decades, Mack designers and engineers did their job well. But instead of taking pride in this timeless good design, Volvo tries to pass it off as a new truck. They ain't foolin' nobody but maybe a few newbies, and Volvo is destroying what little credibility they have left in the process. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51054-volvo-introduces-new-mack-%E2%80%9Canthem%E2%80%9D-on-highway-tractor/page/2/#findComment-382273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 May bee a dream but wouldn't it be nice if Volvo pulled out of North America and sold Mack to Scania. Then maybe we could import the Trident or Superliner along with the Scania V8 and the Mack Scania relationship of the past could be reborn. KS I love the time line history of the CH to the Anthem. So true. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51054-volvo-introduces-new-mack-%E2%80%9Canthem%E2%80%9D-on-highway-tractor/page/2/#findComment-382283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 The hood mirrors are pretty ugly, but my bet is they will be replaced by cameras. And I would not be surprised that all exterior mirrors get phased out for cameras and sensors over the long term. Design will continue to be evolutionary, not revolutionary. Trucks are tools and function will always win out over form if the builder wants to stay in business. We may all love the big square hood designs, but that is not what the fleets want and if you don't build what your customers want you won't be around long. I hate the new fire truck designs, but they are safer and more functional than the ones I rode. Hard to argue with that. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51054-volvo-introduces-new-mack-%E2%80%9Canthem%E2%80%9D-on-highway-tractor/page/2/#findComment-382285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 On 9/22/2017 at 3:20 PM, mrsmackpaul said: I wonder if they will have a RHD version of the stand up cab ??? I think that with the Trident bonnet would be a good seller out here but would need the shorter bunk for B double work maybe They're working on It Paul... https://www.fullyloaded.com.au/truck-reviews/1806/mack-anthem-bulldog-barking Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51054-volvo-introduces-new-mack-%E2%80%9Canthem%E2%80%9D-on-highway-tractor/page/2/#findComment-401736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxbxc Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 The problem with vehicle design today is what I call the Google plug and designers which turns out. a vehicle along the lines of spell check software ,which calls for spelling corrections with out under standing the .meaning of the word . 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51054-volvo-introduces-new-mack-%E2%80%9Canthem%E2%80%9D-on-highway-tractor/page/2/#findComment-401737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51054-volvo-introduces-new-mack-%E2%80%9Canthem%E2%80%9D-on-highway-tractor/page/2/#findComment-429679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 That's one of the ones I've been writing about, turbo compounded engine and a single drive axle with air lift pusher axle, gets 9+ MPG. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51054-volvo-introduces-new-mack-%E2%80%9Canthem%E2%80%9D-on-highway-tractor/page/2/#findComment-429683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Trident and superliner are definitely good looking trucks. especially Trident. Anthem not so much. I think the Anthem is an attempt to dumb down the Aussie lineup. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51054-volvo-introduces-new-mack-%E2%80%9Canthem%E2%80%9D-on-highway-tractor/page/2/#findComment-429795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 My opinion is changing. I thought the Anthem was the ugliest truck I have ever seen, but the other day some brand new piggy-backed W990 Kenworth's drove by me. Ding ding ding....we have a new winner for the world's ugliest truck! Even worse in real life than the pics I saw of them, LOL. So now the Anthem looks better to me. Volvo owes a thank you to KW, LOL. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51054-volvo-introduces-new-mack-%E2%80%9Canthem%E2%80%9D-on-highway-tractor/page/2/#findComment-429821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Hayseed: Great article on the introduction of the anthem in Australia. I wonder if the stand up cab will venture over to Trident and Superliner> Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51054-volvo-introduces-new-mack-%E2%80%9Canthem%E2%80%9D-on-highway-tractor/page/2/#findComment-429843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 On 8/10/2019 at 9:50 PM, Bullheaded said: My opinion is changing. I thought the Anthem was the ugliest truck I have ever seen, but the other day some brand new piggy-backed W990 Kenworth's drove by me. Ding ding ding....we have a new winner for the world's ugliest truck! Even worse in real life than the pics I saw of them, LOL. So now the Anthem looks better to me. Volvo owes a thank you to KW, LOL. In my mind, the three most unattractive (hideous) looking trucks today are the 5700XE, Anthem and W990. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51054-volvo-introduces-new-mack-%E2%80%9Canthem%E2%80%9D-on-highway-tractor/page/2/#findComment-429891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 hours ago, kscarbel2 said: In my mind, the three most unattractive (hideous) looking trucks today are the 5700XE, Anthem and W990. Wow ! Funny how the mind interprets Beauty ! In this order I pick the star as a better look than the anthem And the KW is defiantly low on the charts for me ! How ever they All Got one Thing in Common ! THEY ARE ALL Junk! In comparison to days of old! Looks aren't everything! Could be the ugliest POS on the road If it was reliable it would be worth buying! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51054-volvo-introduces-new-mack-%E2%80%9Canthem%E2%80%9D-on-highway-tractor/page/2/#findComment-429901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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