NFL What a disgrace !

[41chevy]

50 minutes ago, HeavyGunner said:

Well said Paul. The problem is even when shown cold hard facts th majority of our country believes the bs spewed on the "news" channels. The US is in for some trouble unless we get some politicians who care more about the good of our country than being reelected. 

The way 2018 is shaping up you may see more trump style people elected. getting pretty tired of the business as usual gang.

[Mcrafty1]

If these jocks want to protest this country....make em find another nation to use for their sport.

[h67st]

11 hours ago, macks in nigeria said:

I disagree. The Currently employed baits people and picks up so much quarrels you wonder if it is out of lack of something to do.

Macks, you've got something there...if you work hard and do something constructive with your free time, you won't have time to look for something to be unhappy about.

[gxbxc]

some politician in Va is run under the pretense of ending the NFL monopoly ,didn't I say that a few days ago.I sure wish former pres Obama had been staying on richard  bransons private island when the hurricane came through , might have ended half of our problems .but them it would have been Trumps fault. 

Now when you guys turn off the FootBall games get out in the yard/barn/garage and GET TO WORK ON SOME OF THOSE TRUCKS!!them and us aren't getting any younger. I'll crawl back under my rock now.

[Mack Technician]

13 hours ago, 41chevy said:

The way 2018 is shaping up you may see more trump style people elected. getting pretty tired of the business as usual gang.

Agree.

It's happening in 2017, even to the non-Trump style people.

Look at the Moore Vs. Strange primary in Alabama on Tuesday. Trump was stumping for Strange and Moore ("non-Trump style person") ended up winning.

First thing Moore did was get up and endorse support for Trump. He didn't have to (~maybe~ except because Trump washed over Alabama 9-0 in prez election).

Populism sounds like a swear word till you realize Trump is just saying what your thinking (NFL, Hillary, Kim Un, liberal bias media, etc, etc, etc).

 

Edited September 28, 2017 by Mack Technician

[41chevy]

52 minutes ago, Mack Technician said:

He and Obama have that in common, they both are waaaaaaaay too concerned about the Kardashians.

In this case Obama would have had "A White House beer with Kapernick" and Trump is going to beat him into the ground like a tent post.

Not Kim the woman but the one Obama and Bush should have neutered... Kim Il Jung

Kapernick wears "police pigs " sock and the NFL smile. but fine players from Dallas $12,000 each for having a small sticker on the helmets for the 5 Dallas police killed, The players that honored the 911 victims with special cleats were fined $10,000 each by he NFL, fine a player for miming shooting a bow and arrow, fine another for dunking the ball after a touch down, fine another for doing a victory dance in the end zone. Kinda like soft porn is terrible and hard core is okay.

I guess BLM and the Liberal Media runs the show in real life.

Edited September 28, 2017 by 41chevy

[Mack Technician]

1 minute ago, 41chevy said:

Not Kim the woman but the one Obama and Bush should have neutered... Kim Il Jung

Kapernick wears "police pig " sock and the NFL smile. but fine players from Dallas $12,000 each for having a small sticker on the helmets for the 5 Dallas police killed, The players that  honored the 911 victims were fined $10,000 each by he NFL, fine a player for miming shooting a bow and arrow, fine another for dunking the ball after a touch down, fine another for doing a victory dance in the end zone. 

I guess BLM and the Liberal Media runs the show in real life.

All good reasons to change your channel.  

It leaves you wondering why they can practice their 1st amendment freedoms on the field, but an off duty officer couldn't legally carry his firearm into a stadium? Why can't a civilian legally carry during a stadium visit since it is a second amendment right and they have a purchased the permit with background check? 

Think it through and it starts to reek of some constitutional cherry pick'in.

I'm spending Sunday watching the leaves change colors, enjoy.  

[Mack Technician]

On ‎9‎/‎26‎/‎2017 at 10:11 PM, B MACK said:

Yes, the one sided, liberal media is part of the problem.   These players and the Hollywood  people use their celiberty status  to voice their  opinions.  And the media goes along with it.   I agree as individuals  they have the right to protest.  But when they are on the field for a game, they are at work.   And if the team owner or coach had any respect for this nation and not just the dollar they would say " You stand or you go down the road".   

It is a strange relationship America has with Hollywood.

In the medieval times the Kings ruled from a throne and were entertained by the court Jester(AKA Fool).

In modern times the Jester (AKA-Hollywood) kicks the King out of the throne and people listen intently to everything the fool says because He is more entertaining than the King.  

[Keith S]

If you want to vent your political views, do it somewhere else. Or am I infringing on your freedom of speech? Just like you're trying to do with NFL players protesting. Comedian Chris Rock said it best "... no white man in America would change places with me. And I'm rich." Veterans did not fight and die so that everyone had to bow to the whims of our dickhead-in-chief... that behavior is for North Korea.

Or is that the behavior you expect from freedom loving Americans? Or do you simply hate our Constitution?

[Mack Technician]

1. This IS the political section of the site.

2. Your quoting the Jester (rock) .....so totally confirming and  justifying my comment.

3. This didn't start with Trump.

4. We are staying on topic to original post

5. IS THAT YOU TEAMSTERRRGRL!!! XO. NEW IDENTITY?!!!✌🏼

Edited September 29, 2017 by Mack Technician

[HeavyGunner]

2 hours ago, Keith S said:

If you want to vent your political views, do it somewhere else. Or am I infringing on your freedom of speech? Just like you're trying to do with NFL players protesting. Comedian Chris Rock said it best "... no white man in America would change places with me. And I'm rich." Veterans did not fight and die so that everyone had to bow to the whims of our dickhead-in-chief... that behavior is for North Korea.

Or is that the behavior you expect from freedom loving Americans? Or do you simply hate our Constitution?

As Mack technician said this IS the place where we can talk about whatever we like. Just like the tv where you can change the channel, you can choose not to read anything in odds and ends. Not trying to be a jerk or dog pile on you. I want bmt to continue to be a place where I enjoy going and talking over thing with friends so use your freedoms and not read stuff in odds and ends if that's what's upsetting you. There are thousands and thousands of threads to read in all the other forums if odds and ends is making you mad. 

[mowerman]

Unsportsmanlike conduct and 50 gees every time they Kneel  problem solved I'm done with football for a while overpaid crybabies raider fan not too much now bob

[mowerman]

Saw that game on Sunday I was disgusted and Embarrassed couldn't believe what I was looking at these clowns need to do that on their own time not my weekend getting paid way too much to wine about anything.  Bob

[Maddog13407]

agree, stop putting them on the pedestal. start fining the sh*t out of them to the point they are payin the NLF to play. its a privilege and luck of the draw to be overpaid and get arrested and beat your wife and get away with murder.....

[mowerman]

 And yes I am a Raiders fan or at least thought it was I am done with them for a while  someone else said I'll just spend my Sundays outdoors now I'm stead of nine hours of TV  support our local Wolfpack team.  Bob

[HeavyGunner]

3 minutes ago, mowerman said:

 And yes I am a Raiders fan or at least thought it was I am done with them for a while  someone else said I'll just spend my Sundays outdoors now I'm stead of nine hours of TV  support our local Wolfpack team.  Bob

 Nah I think you’ll be spending time with that dm in your new shop on sundays. 

[Hobert62]

[41chevy]

First amendment rights are important I agree, but as a combat veteran and one that was severely wounded, the problem  with the NFL protest is the lack of respect shown for all of us when they snub the flag and anthem. Simple as that. RESPECT, nothing more is expected and nothing less is accepted. Or don't we veterans deserve that? We didn't fight for the man office, we fought for our country.  If your support for the protesters is because the president gave his opinion and you do not like it or because you don't like him or you believe the media who says they deserve to protest, than you are just a drone who follows a crowd.

[B MACK]

I saw on this morning's news,   I believe a 6 year old, first grade boy from Florida,   was kneeling during the pledge to the flag...    Now where did this young grade school boy get that from.....  These so called "role models"

[Ezrider]

i am not a avid sports fan. i simply do not have the time to really follow sports i really honestly watch very little tv period. on the rare occasion that i happen to be infront of the tv when a football game is on i do enjoy watching.

my biggest grevence with this whole thing, is they are very highly paid to play a game, a opportunity only available in the US to be paid at such a high level to play a game and they want to spit in the face of the very country that has provided them with the opportunity to do what they do. Im not the most patriotic person in the world i have many grevences with our country but i still have tons of respect for our veterans and the sacrifices of our veterans and there family's and the ideals our country was founded on and the things that our national anthem and the flag represents. so yes there protest upset me.

ill be honest that i have not even followed this much besideds what i have heard on the radio and some socail media posts. i am not even 100% sure that i know what they are protesting against. but the impression i got was that they were protesting against police violence against blacks and discrimination against people of color. (this is the impression iv gotten i guess im not even 100% sure what they are protesting against) but if that is what they are protesting i feel its largely a issue fabricated by the media. 

[mowerman]

 They need to fly out to Ferguson on their own time to get deputized be cops for a week and show us how to do it 😡Bob

[KDog Trucking]

You all want the right to free speech but you want to criticize those who do it. That in essence is your opinion and you are entitled to it. 
I agree that showing proper respect to the flag is appropriate. However, I don't think it should be mandatory as it would be in say, Nazi Germany. You want to fire people or otherwise punish them for not saluting the flag?! WTF! As for me, I will honor God and Country and in that order. I will do it voluntarily and not be forced to do it. 

Senator John McCain will defend their right to protest all day. War veteran and POW. Not a turncoat. Understands the value of freedom. "The prisoner of war, who was held and tortured for five-and-a-half years in Vietnam, struck back at the president's attack on athletes who take a knee in protest." 

For those of you who aren't watching the NFL because of this circus sideshow distraction good for you...don't. Football has never been about politics for me, if anything it's an escape from that. All this extra stuff appeals to people who don't care about the games. I could care less about what goes on between plays, and I suspect most of you don't really follow football anyway or you wouldn't be turning off your tvs. Ratings are not down at all.

These are just distractions that don't have anything to do with football, the game, the sport. If you want to watch middle school football because there is no controversy there, good for you. I personally think it's there right to do whatever they choose as long as it doesn't violate your rights and you should respect their right. And they are paid to play football not for their off the field opinions. 

Trumps comments are off-base. Firing someone because they have a dissenting opinion isn't right- try this at your workplace if you love this idea so much. YES SIR! NO SIR! This may be fine and even necessary for the military, not so great in a workplace that wants intellectual growth and requires employees to contribute. 
 

[mowerman]

interesting post but yes they are on the job....and we all have to follow the rules....furthermore...if you dont wanna salute the american flag,,,,  then..get out..nobody needs you here..and join your communist party....and apparently you should be deputied as well and join your brothers in ferguson....where those thugs destroyed the  town..and thought that was alrite.....and yes you show us how its done....and yes i see you have never been tough enough to be a solder...otherwise you would be on the same side.after watching kolen kapernic..kneeling while that black sailer sang the national antham    you were probably more proud of the ...big famous quarterback........yaaaaaaaa baby you tell them whity,,,s whats up..and dont know where you have been....but ticket sales have taken a major dive....bob

[Mack Technician]

 

46 minutes ago, mowerman said:

interesting post but yes they are on the job....and we all have to follow the rules....furthermore...if you dont wanna salute the american flag,,,,  then..get out..nobody needs you here..and join your communist party....and apparently you should be deputied as well and join your brothers in ferguson....where those thugs destroyed the  town..and thought that was alrite.....and yes you show us how its done....and yes i see you have never been tough enough to be a solder...otherwise you would be on the same side.after watching kolen kapernic..kneeling while that black sailer sang the national antham    you were probably more proud of the ...big famous quarterback........yaaaaaaaa baby you tell them whity,,,s whats up..and dont know where you have been....but ticket sales have taken a major dive....bob

Looks like the average drop in sale of tickets is 18% from last year.  

[Mack Technician]

13 hours ago, 41chevy said:

First amendment rights are important I agree, but as a combat veteran and one that was severely wounded,

Thanks for your service 41.