"Mack" by John Montville

[Lmackattack]

I just picked up this book from Amazon. By far one of the best books with information on Mack and its history up to the 1970s

[hicrop10]

Great book,had mine since the 70's.

[Lmackattack]

I have heard people talk about it but could never find one. The other week I just searched for it and saw Amazon had a few listed for around $15-20

 

[41chevy]

That book and his book called Bulldog are the bibles in my opinion.  Paul

[Lmackattack]

 I will have to look for "bulldogs" I was not aware of that one....

[Red Horse]

Well guys,  I am ancient I guess.   My copy was given to me by Homer Milliken with his business card glued to the inside flap;                            "National Accounts 

                                                         Mack Trucks Inc

                                                         350 Fifth Ave.

                                                         New York, New York 10001"

How about it KSC- when was that office shut down?

In any case, agree great book

[mackdaddy]

John wanted to do an update some years back and I was told that Volvo would not give him permission? 

[yarnall]

He is on the Mack Museum advisory board and has been talking about the update.  He is working on it.  Hopefully it happens.  

[kscarbel2]

20 hours ago, Red Horse said:

Well guys,  I am ancient I guess.   My copy was given to me by Homer Milliken with his business card glued to the inside flap;                            "National Accounts 

                                                         Mack Trucks Inc

                                                         350 Fifth Ave.

                                                         New York, New York 10001"

How about it KSC- when was that office shut down?

In any case, agree great book

That's the address of the Empire State Building. C'mon Bob, that was on a test last year. The headquarters for Mack moved from the Empire State Building to Plainfield, New Jersey in 1955. Mack had a massive presence in New York, but at one time was a much larger corporate citizen of New Jersey than Pennsylvania.

John's good people. He produced some one-off books for me.

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Mack Plants – New York City, New York

The purchase of the Hewitt Motor Company in 1912 by the International Motor Company (the holding company of Mack Brothers Motor Car Company) resulted in the acquisition of Hewitt’s large plant located at West End Avenue and 64th Street in Manhattan. Hewitt trucks and Arco radiators (a subsidiary of the International Motor Company) were produced there, as well as Alco truck spare parts under contract for the American Locomotive Company (which had discontinued truck production in 1913)

In 1913, the facility was enlarged to 200,000 square feet, with a garage capacity of 350 trucks, to serve as a factory service center.

By 1914, both the corporate headquarters of the International Motor Company and Mack R&D center were located within the massive complex.

The facility also acted as a parts distribution center (PDC) until 1920, with the opening of the New Brunswick, New Jersey, PDC.

By the early 1930s, the factory service center had fully shifted to Mack’s massive Long Island City location, and the company’s corporate headquarters had moved downtown to the Cunard Building on lower Broadway (before relocating to the Long Island City plant in 1936, the Empire State Building in 1943, Plainfield, New Jersey in 1955, Montvale, New Jersey in 1964 and Allentown, Pennsylvania in 1965).

Note: Legendary Mack chief engineer and vice president Alfred Fellows Masury was one of the founders of the Hewitt Motor Company

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[Lmackattack]

8 hours ago, mackdaddy said:

John wanted to do an update some years back and I was told that Volvo would not give him permission? 

That is absolute disgraceful if that is Volvos position. I bet they are worried about the truth being spoken? However I dont see how Volvo can stop him from writing a book.

7 hours ago, yarnall said:

He is on the Mack Museum advisory board and has been talking about the update.  He is working on it.  Hopefully it happens.  

Glad to hear that. I hate reading yet I find his writing style enjoyable

[fxfymn]

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That is absolute disgraceful if that is Volvos position. I bet they are worried about the truth being spoken? However I dont see how Volvo can stop him from writing a book.

Easy now. The statement was a rumor, not a fact.

Mr. Montville is an absolute gentleman who has an encyclopedic  knowledge about Mack Trucks and the Mack corporation. 

[Whiskymack]

By far the best book on Mack that I have come across. There are already two editions, one with a stars and stripes jacket from the early 70's and a later edition with a superliner on the Jacket which includes the later 70's output. An update would be welcome. It's been nearly 40 years since the last one.

[j hancock]

I have both of his excellent books and another Montville Mack book would certainly be welcomed.

[mackey58]

Volvo  i m o is a disgrace to the fine history  of mack and mack trucks all the work mack done on the highway and vocational  side  it's just sad they will go the route of gmc white and Autocar after they were sucked up

[Vladislav]

I doubt any other book shares such full encyclopedyc amount of facts about the Mack company.

Bulldog is a special part showing out everything of AC model from A to Z.

[sodly]

I received my copy of MACK in the early 80s when I wrote to Mack Trucks as a kid asking for brochures for my collection.  Much to my surprise, the president of the company, Jack Curcio, replied with a care package of both Montville books, a bulldog ash tray, hat pins, truck lithographs, brochures and I can't remember what else.  Still have all that stuff.  I would love to see an updated version of MACK with more info on the 80s and 90s models.    

[mackey58]

Remember  when you could write to a company  and they d send ya a ton of stuff wrote to keen transport  as a kid telling them his cool it was to see there trucks hauling those big cat loads out of aurora il they send me hats  a coffee  mug and cool pics awww man old days lol

[grayhair]

Yep, them old days are gone forever...

[yarnall]

4 hours ago, mackey58 said:

Remember  when you could write to a company  and they d send ya a ton of stuff wrote to keen transport  as a kid telling them his cool it was to see there trucks hauling those big cat loads out of aurora il they send me hats  a coffee  mug and cool pics awww man old days lol

My father has a binder full of B model spec sheets that he got from Mack as a kid.  I wish he had kept the letters that came with them.  

[Vladislav]

On my mind it was a very GOOD and RIGHT way of doing a business. Not a great trouble for a big company to pay attention to a kid who has his senserely interest to the subject and present him with some bits of promotional goods. Good chances are a kid will grow up and become a customer. A customer with lagre sympathy to the company and its products.

If we look from rough financial point of view such actions take time of employes and both expences for presents themself and postage. But two things seems to me paying back. The 1st is growing customers for the future. It means you're going to work for a long time. And the 2nd. Some money loss may accure, it's true. But doing job such way you do it with pride and honest. So is money the only reason to do work? Many people just don't keep in mind they also spend their life at the same time. Which way?

Unfortunately here in Russia such things are way out of line almost everywhere. The main reason I see is impossibility to work for a while. The situation changes all the time. Lows are changed etc. And as long as the powers see anybody strats working good and doing better it's a command to take as much from his entertainment as possible. Or just everything, no matter the deal collapses.

Born and grown in Soviet Union I well remember being told from everywhere around that Soviet country was the most justyfull and carefull to its people who live absolutely happy. And the capitalist world with America at the leadership makes people low of their life and"beat crap out of them". I was not a fool to trust in that watching Western movies and seeing goods produced in the US, Germany or Japan. But now when I read stories like these above I just feel a shame for my country of those days finding out the capitalist world was much wellfull to his nations then the best justy Soviets were.

[james j neiweem]

KS: Don't forget we are waiting for your book on Mack. May be you and John could collude. Vlad I hope things keep getting better and better in your homeland. The left in our country is trying to do the same thing in our country that the Bolshevics did in yours in 1917. Instead of using guns and bullets they are using corrupt anti American politicians. (Socialists, Democrats, Progressives , Communists and Rhinos. Instead of bullets they use corrupt laws to strip us of freedoms. Hopefully Trump can pull the plug on the swamp.

[mackdaddy]

On ‎11‎/‎2‎/‎2017 at 12:17 AM, kscarbel2 said:

That's the address of the Empire State Building. C'mon Bob, that was on a test last year. The headquarters for Mack moved from the Empire State Building to Plainfield, New Jersey in 1955. Mack had a massive presence in New York, but at one time was a much larger corporate citizen of New Jersey than Pennsylvania.

John's good people. He produced some one-off books for me.

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Mack Plants – New York City, New York

The purchase of the Hewitt Motor Company in 1912 by the International Motor Company (the holding company of Mack Brothers Motor Car Company) resulted in the acquisition of Hewitt’s large plant located at West End Avenue and 64th Street in Manhattan. Hewitt trucks and Arco radiators (a subsidiary of the International Motor Company) were produced there, as well as Alco truck spare parts under contract for the American Locomotive Company (which had discontinued truck production in 1913)

In 1913, the facility was enlarged to 200,000 square feet, with a garage capacity of 350 trucks, to serve as a factory service center.

By 1914, both the corporate headquarters of the International Motor Company and Mack R&D center were located within the massive complex.

The facility also acted as a parts distribution center (PDC) until 1920, with the opening of the New Brunswick, New Jersey, PDC.

By the early 1930s, the factory service center had fully shifted to Mack’s massive Long Island City location, and the company’s corporate headquarters had moved downtown to the Cunard Building on lower Broadway (before relocating to the Long Island City plant in 1936, the Empire State Building in 1943, Plainfield, New Jersey in 1955, Montvale, New Jersey in 1964 and Allentown, Pennsylvania in 1965).

Note: Legendary Mack chief engineer and vice president Alfred Fellows Masury was one of the founders of the Hewitt Motor Company

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last year an employee  sat next to a man on a plane out of Medford, OR. In the conversation he learned that the man.......named Nick owned a trucking business based in Medford. My guy Walt told him about my passion for Mack and the collection of trucks I had and to his surprise Nick told him that his last name was Hewitt and that his grandfather sold his company to Mack. Well needless to say Nick and I met up and he brought a stack of Hewitt Motor papers with him including a copy of the stock transfer when Mack bought the company. He received all of this during a visit to Mack several years ago. He said they treated him like he was royalty. Now you got to ask how could that be his grandfather after all of these years? He told me his father was in his early 60's when he was born. He also had a lot of history about a very large estate that the Hewitt family owned in New Jersey. He started his driving career for an outfit out of Virginia. I will get the company name and update.

He knew nothing about us nuts that restore old trucks and he quickly became a fan and has gone to a couple shows with me. He loves mixing the sticks as he started out in an F model with a tri plex..............sadly he has a fleet of KW's.

[james j neiweem]

You need a fleet of KW's just to keep one on the road. Just kidding.

[blackdog2]

6 hours ago, james j neiweem said:

You need a fleet of KW's just to keep one on the road. Just kidding.

Service manager at TRI-state KENNELWORTH told me a customer had 5-truck and all 5 were in the shop  o o s .

[mackdaddy]

23 hours ago, mackdaddy said:

last year an employee  sat next to a man on a plane out of Medford, OR. In the conversation he learned that the man.......named Nick owned a trucking business based in Medford. My guy Walt told him about my passion for Mack and the collection of trucks I had and to his surprise Nick told him that his last name was Hewitt and that his grandfather sold his company to Mack. Well needless to say Nick and I met up and he brought a stack of Hewitt Motor papers with him including a copy of the stock transfer when Mack bought the company. He received all of this during a visit to Mack several years ago. He said they treated him like he was royalty. Now you got to ask how could that be his grandfather after all of these years? He told me his father was in his early 60's when he was born. He also had a lot of history about a very large estate that the Hewitt family owned in New Jersey. He started his driving career for an outfit out of Virginia. I will get the company name and update.

He knew nothing about us nuts that restore old trucks and he quickly became a fan and has gone to a couple shows with me. He loves mixing the sticks as he started out in an F model with a tri plex..............sadly he has a fleet of KW's.

update here is an email I got from Nick Hewitt

Oh, and as far as a new Mack goes I received a visit from the new salesmen from Tec Equipment Tim Martin. I told him I had been in one and really liked it but a factory build weight of 18,900 was a bit much. The T680's I have came in at 17,200 and the new ones I just specked out with Paul have a build weight of 16,900. I gave Tim the Kenworth spec sheet and told him if he could get within 200 lbs of the Kenworth I would try a new Anthem. I hope he does. I will make it my personal truck! That was a week ago. As of this writing  I have not heard from him.

 

Come on Mack................step up and make it happen!!!