Popular Post Truck Shop Posted November 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2017 Some typical shop work, this Series 60 14L came out of a wreck and saw some rpm- bent all the valves. So it will get a new OEM cylinder head, cut and shim counter bores and install OEM pistons/liners. Reseal rear structure and change rear main seal, new air compressor plus new injector harness. Never a dull day in the shop. Truck Shop 3 Quote One ping only Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZDB Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Do you worry about the bottom end on one like that after rpms and who knows what operating angle? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-384510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Have you ever pulled the liners on a 14L?A special pullers is required because piston and rod will not come out of the top of liner so it all has to be pulled at same time.These are a good engine if its not a egr valve engine. 1 Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-384513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck Shop Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 34 minutes ago, theakerstwo said: Have you ever pulled the liners on a 14L?A special pullers is required because piston and rod will not come out of the top of liner so it all has to be pulled at same time.These are a good engine if its not a egr valve engine. In 44 years of this work it's not my first rodeo. I own all the tools required to do a rebuild on Series 60's. We have 46 tractors and 17 of them are 14L 60 DDEC IV. The company had 20 DDEC V's EGR models-junk. As soon as it lost compression it shut down. And yes it's getting new rods. Quote One ping only Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-384516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-384518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGarofalo Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I never liked the design for the front cover/head/cam plate seal on the series 60. It seems like every one that rolls through the shop is at least damp in that area. I remember the days of doing engines on the ground and I dont miss it lol! I bought my first OTC revolver engine stand and loved it so much I bought a second one. The amount of time you save in handling is immense. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-384522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck Shop Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 45 minutes ago, BGarofalo said: I never liked the design for the front cover/head/cam plate seal on the series 60. It seems like every one that rolls through the shop is at least damp in that area. I remember the days of doing engines on the ground and I dont miss it lol! I bought my first OTC revolver engine stand and loved it so much I bought a second one. The amount of time you save in handling is immense. The cam plate can be a problem area for leaks. I use Napa brand Sil Glyde on the diamond seal and track seal so head slides by on installation and have no leaks doing it that way. Plus there is a brace that goes on at the top front of head to structure both sides, if the left one is gone they will get to leaking after awhile. I worked at a shop some years ago that had the best revolving engine stands, with built in jib crane and swing out tool trays. The owner had them built so you could work anywhere in the shop. They were monsters heavy as hell and they would spoil a mechanic. Quote One ping only Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-384525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol2Stroker Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 You replacing the injector harness only or the entire engine side harness? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-384526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol2Stroker Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I love this kind of thread, I love seeing what people are building in their shops... I just finished this build for a customer but he needed it back to finish fab so we didn't get to run it yet. I'll shoot out to his place for first start and to set the final tune up. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-384527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 T S. That will keep you busy for a little bit. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-384532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macks in nigeria Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 You learn everyday on this forum. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-384542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck Shop Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 11 hours ago, Ol2Stroker said: You replacing the injector harness only or the entire engine side harness? Just the injector/jake harness. the harness can be a problem child with age. The harness doesn't cost that much and when your in there you may as well replace it when there old. Truck Shop Quote One ping only Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-384556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
h67st Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 23 hours ago, Ol2Stroker said: I love this kind of thread, I love seeing what people are building in their shops... I just finished this build for a customer but he needed it back to finish fab so we didn't get to run it yet. I'll shoot out to his place for first start and to set the final tune up. Ol2, is that a 4-71? Is it easy to get parts for the 2 cycle DDs? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-384579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck Shop Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 It was a light Saturday for service work so I pulled the front structure apart and checked the gear train mainly the bull gear for end play and wear {ok}. So it was a clean and reseal. It's an easy job when out of the rails. When you have the chance it's always good to check the bull gear. Truck Shop Quote One ping only Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-384716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 On 11/10/2017 at 6:17 AM, h67st said: Ol2, is that a 4-71? Is it easy to get parts for the 2 cycle DDs? That’s a 4-53T; I haven’t heard of it being hard to find parts Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-384723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ws721 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 On 11/11/2017 at 9:11 PM, 1965 said: That’s a 4-53T; I haven’t heard of it being hard to find parts Ive been told repeatedly that B.C, Cummins & 2 stroke Detroit parts are "OBSOLETE." I'm sick of being told that. Just have to do more looking now a days 1 Quote Remember if it's got a hood it's no good! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-384791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 In the truck world they are largely obsolete, 'cause by the time they're 25 years old most vehicles have been scrapped and become parts donors rather than recipients. Off road in the world of boats, gensets, and other uses due to low hours of usage or the boat being built around them, diesel engines have a much longer working life. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-384794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol2Stroker Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 strokes are easy to get parts for and yes that's a 453T 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-384795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macks in nigeria Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 That's a new engine you have there.Like we say here, More grease to your elbow Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-385703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Pre egr and the best engine Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-385756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol2Stroker Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Looks awesome!!! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-386098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I'll bet theres alot of companies building older engines for glider kits. Sure alot less troubles. terry Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-386113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david wild Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 And lets no forget thanks to Trump you get to continue building gliders. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-386115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck Shop Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 Well there are a few sticklers with future gliders, Freightliner anyways. A glider has to be minus two major drive train components to be a sold as a glider. If you order a glider from Freightliner right now with a engine you have to have a core to turn in against it or you will be charged 30,000 for the core. Freightliner has sold so many gliders Detroit is running low on complete cores. And Freightliner from what I understand will stop the glider program in 2020 even with the new EPA plan on gliders. And unfortunately there just isn't that many fleets that want to spend the time building a glider or the shop area and mechanics to be able to complete it. Basic cost of Detroit special tools to rebuild a series 60 about $1,800.00 and most shops that don't have those tools aren't going to invest in tools for 14 year old engines. Thanks for the replies. Truck Shop Quote One ping only Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-386133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 If anything the demand for glider power and electronic logs are pushing up the prices of 90s engines. I can see where the manufacturers want out of the glider business- If somebody builds a 2020 model year glider with a 90s engine and it has the typical working life of 20 years or so, they'll be stuck providing parts for 40 and 50 year old engines! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51626-typical-shop-work/#findComment-386141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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