MACKS Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Does anyone even do this any more,is this a DYS thing or for pros only? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51926-re-groove-tires/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Mack Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 the tire must have "regroovable" on the sidewall... !!! look up... title 49 CFR 569.3 and .7 for the rules and specs the good tool can cost $800+, not sure if the Chinese have copied it yet.... nick the cord and the recappers will reject it, there is a minimum for the depth of material to be left in bottom of groove and not many tires today give the extra meat... works better for older bias tires if the tire is close to the age limit and you know the cappers will not touch it, then it may be worthwhile, but in general the industry has gone away from it, maybe the small guys still do it for trailers.. not allowed on steers some bus companies still doing it for tag tires, might be easier to find a guy that does it for them.. BC Mack Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51926-re-groove-tires/#findComment-387163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 Ok thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51926-re-groove-tires/#findComment-387216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 We do a little bit of regrooving, if it hasn’t scalloped out already. Like BC Mack said, you can go too deep, and I certainly have done so in the past. But new tyres are cheaper the retreads here so it was no big deal. Its also very handy if you can mount your own tyres. It’s one things to regroove one to get 20/30,000 miles but if you have to pay $20 to have it mounted it may not be as cost effective. We mainly do our drive tyres to run on dollys and our trailer tyres wear in the middle so we cut a groove there to marry up with the outer grooves. You might get 3 or 4mm exrta tread, not a lot. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51926-re-groove-tires/#findComment-387250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I've heard stories when I was a kid from old guys that where really thirsty that day how they used to regrove tires with a chainsaw right on the truck. I don't think I'd recommend. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51926-re-groove-tires/#findComment-387258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyGunner Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 The outfit I work for runs recaps on drivers and trailers almost exclusively. The only time we got virgin tires is either on a new truck, steer axle tires or when we’ve had too many carcasses rejected and need more. We have excellent luck with them, we use the BDY heavy lug recap for our drivers and seem to get decent life out of them for what we do with them. Quote The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by the people who vote for a living.The government can only "give" someone what they first take from another. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51926-re-groove-tires/#findComment-387264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 We ran recaps for a long time. We used recamic which is Michelin’s brand and I had good experiences with them. But locally it cost $270 to get a trailer retread. But I can get Firestone 11r brand new for $250. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51926-re-groove-tires/#findComment-387315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 12 hours ago, Hobert62 said: I've heard stories when I was a kid from old guys that where really thirsty that day how they used to regrove tires with a chainsaw right on the truck. I don't think I'd recommend. You don’t recommend getting thirsty or using the chainsaw? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51926-re-groove-tires/#findComment-387316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Both are fine until you add a mounted truck tire. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51926-re-groove-tires/#findComment-387323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaPatentman Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 My father made his own re-grooving tool using an old Paragon Soldering Iron (American Beauty Model 3198 550 watt by today's standard) the cutting edge was formed from a sharpened piece of SS and attached to the tip via holes he drilled and tapped. Attached with silicone bronze machine screws to promote heat transfer. Iron costs about $264.00 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51926-re-groove-tires/#findComment-387329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Timmy B I would recommend that if you are thirsty you regroove the tire before quenching your thirst! And use a very small chain saw! Have you watched "outback truckers?" it seemed pretty realistic to me but I've never trucked in oz! I quit watching "ice road truck truckers" when the guy used his "Jake" on ice! The list time I drove a truck with a Jake I used it while empty on a wet entrance ramp an almost lost it! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51926-re-groove-tires/#findComment-387348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Some wise words Billy about the small chainsaw. Yeah my young boys love outback truckers so we record it for them. It’s mostly accurate, but very dramatised. They love ice road truckers too, but I don’t as it scares the hell outta me. Hat goes off to you guys who drive up there! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51926-re-groove-tires/#findComment-387391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Timmyb said: Some wise words Billy about the small chainsaw. Yeah my young boys love outback truckers so we record it for them. It’s mostly accurate, but very dramatised. They love ice road truckers too, but I don’t as it scares the hell outta me. Hat goes off to you guys who drive up there! Read DENISON'S ICE ROAD He not only ran the road but had to build it as the went.From the 1950's to the mid 1970's . The ones on TV would not last 30 minutes on Denisons road. The 325 trip was 2 days each way with out break downs, ice break through's or storms. Edited December 14, 2017 by 41chevy Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51926-re-groove-tires/#findComment-387399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehummell Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Have a look at king of obsolete's website very interesting an he runs an old ford with a 318. I saw him on that ice road show pulling a load along with some others. I have a soft spot for those old 318's Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51926-re-groove-tires/#findComment-387400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david wild Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I bought one of Merv Townsends KWs from Hay River NWT he was a ice road pioneer, trucks were really rugged, to heavy for todays general trucking, KW big six susp. low gears, double heaters, ride every day with windows down in the winter, great for up there, not so much here. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51926-re-groove-tires/#findComment-387402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000CL713 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 we use to regroove our tires when we ran a lot of michelin and BFG. they held up very well. could put over 100k on the fronts.... after the market crashed we just buy the cheaper tires that cost half as much and just changer them when they are done.... (i dont run recaps.) Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/51926-re-groove-tires/#findComment-387559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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