Rockwell Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Anyone know of an alternative to going to the dealer for engine work? Seems every shop I call in NJ tells me they are unable to work on Mack due to not having the computer hookup. Am I trapped with dealers only? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/52565-good-mp8-mechanic-in-northern-nj/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGarofalo Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Where are you in northern NJ? East/west? What sort of issues are you having? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/52565-good-mp8-mechanic-in-northern-nj/#findComment-392447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwell Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 I'm in the Wayne, NJ area. I'm not having any specific issue at this moment. But when I do have issues, I'm getting tired of the Mack dealer constantly taking 1 week to fix anything, no matter how small. In addition, and to be honest, I'm also seriously thinking of "tuning" my 2011 compliant motor to run better. I've got a great tuner picked out, but by doing this, I would need a new shop as I'm certain Mack would not work on it, or worse. Seems everywhere I look into, they don't have the software for Mack, and when certain parts are replaced, like injectors for example, they need this. D13 no problem, MP8 no go. I guess because Volvo is so much more popular than Mack they invest in that software. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/52565-good-mp8-mechanic-in-northern-nj/#findComment-392448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwell Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) And just so it's stated, the dealer I use actually does excellent work. Slow! But very good. Problem is they wouldnt be an option with a tune. I'm not in search of someone to do the tune. I'm in search of a good mechanic for after I've done the tune. Edited February 20, 2018 by Rockwell Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/52565-good-mp8-mechanic-in-northern-nj/#findComment-392449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 I would like to point out ,If You do a "tune" you will likely limit your self even more than you are already The Mack softwear is almost identical to Volvo how ever From what I understand Unless your a Dual Dealer we are allowed to see what we have paid for as a dealer !And yes "ALL THE NEW STUFF" is entrapment You ARE Married to the brand! NO matter what you drive! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/52565-good-mp8-mechanic-in-northern-nj/#findComment-392492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwell Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 I don't mind being married to the brand whatsoever, in fact, I very much like my truck and the MP8. What I'm sick of being married to is a 5mph derate in the Bronx on a Friday night. Clean air is expensive and I understand that, but I draw the line at paying with my life. Our trucks are our home away from home, our safe havens on the road. My haven ain't so safe during a derate or some other BS in the name of clean air in a bad area or a frigid cold night. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/52565-good-mp8-mechanic-in-northern-nj/#findComment-392502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyGunner Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 8 hours ago, fjh said: You ARE Married to the brand! NO matter what you drive! I agree to that to some extent but I'd bet 10 out of 10 diesel repair shops have the software for Cummins and Detroit which means they can work on any brand. Since Mack is Mack only and I'm guessing there aren't nearly as many as the other brands they'd be less likely to have the software. Not trying to start a war but going by the trucks on the road stats the above statement is likely true but it's not a fact but just my opinion. Quote The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by the people who vote for a living.The government can only "give" someone what they first take from another. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/52565-good-mp8-mechanic-in-northern-nj/#findComment-392512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Volvo is just screwing themselves with this policy... Here they are with less than 20% of the market, and they expect customers to take the risk of having no support for their product other than the dealers? Nearest Volvo and Mack dealers are 60 miles away, International and Daimler are only 20 miles away and they both work on Cummins... That's a lot more non revenue miles to run or worse yet have towed a truck! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/52565-good-mp8-mechanic-in-northern-nj/#findComment-392514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) On 2/20/2018 at 4:43 PM, HeavyGunner said: I agree to that to some extent but I'd bet 10 out of 10 diesel repair shops have the software for Cummins and Detroit which means they can work on any brand. Since Mack is Mack only and I'm guessing there aren't nearly as many as the other brands they'd be less likely to have the software. Not trying to start a war but going by the trucks on the road stats the above statement is likely true but it's not a fact but just my opinion. No argument here on this Quote how ever Everything changes when you throw an auto trans in the mix which every one seems to be pushing .They seem to be hell bent on creating stupider people here ,they are providing people with so many conveniences abs atc vsa bla bla bla ! Pretty soon you will have nothing but idiots driving 80000 lbs down the hyw. The upside to that is half of those units will be in the shop having repairs done to all the crap they are piling on these units ! Those will likley be dealer specific vehicle ECUs , As Rockwell pointed out A derate to 5 mile an hour on 55 mph hyw is down right dangerous for someone who knows how to drive Just imagine it happening to those that don't , guess the point is that it seems All manufacturers are trying to captivate everything ! there my be a cummins dealer on every corner but not always a KW dealer or a Pete dealer or a Binder dealer and with all the automation your married ! Just saying Edited February 22, 2018 by fjh 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/52565-good-mp8-mechanic-in-northern-nj/#findComment-392650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackpro Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 http://www.premiumtechtool.com/purchase/ The PTT software is $600 for either Mack or Volvo. For both its $800. Then $200 a year for updates if you want them. Plus you can actually get dealer software programming if you want but its quite a bit more. The adapter/interface is where they get you. However the VOCOM II adapter is cheaper than the orignal VOCOM that we use here 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/52565-good-mp8-mechanic-in-northern-nj/#findComment-392652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gry Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 If your running any mack emission truck ,you will need a good mechanic,volvo took a great line of trucks and turned them into shop magnets Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/52565-good-mp8-mechanic-in-northern-nj/#findComment-392921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackpro Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 10 hours ago, gry said: If your running any mack emission truck ,you will need a good mechanic, Volvo EPA took a great line of trucks and turned them into shop magnets Fixed that for ya 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/52565-good-mp8-mechanic-in-northern-nj/#findComment-392934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mackpro said: Fixed that for ya YUP Macpro WE TEND to blame the wrong things some times! call a spade a spade! Edited February 26, 2018 by fjh Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/52565-good-mp8-mechanic-in-northern-nj/#findComment-392940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackpro Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Yep , I tell people to buy a new Peterbilt cause the never break down ! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/52565-good-mp8-mechanic-in-northern-nj/#findComment-392942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Mackpro said: Yep , I tell people to buy a new Peterbilt cause the never break down ! Funny I heard all the new trucks are the most dependable, trouble free ever built. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/52565-good-mp8-mechanic-in-northern-nj/#findComment-392950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwell Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 8 hours ago, Mackpro said: Fixed that for ya EPA may have delivered the hit, but you can thank Obama and his administration for the punch! He is directly why you have the Obama Can full of urea on new trucks today Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/52565-good-mp8-mechanic-in-northern-nj/#findComment-392960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 22 hours ago, Mackpro said: Yep , I tell people to buy a new Peterbilt cause the never break down ! Yup me to a PETE a real mans truck! Just ask em! Same dollar store wire, same dollar store sensors on a new and ELcheapo cab desigin ! Just like everyone else having to run the same stupid crap for emission related issues! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/52565-good-mp8-mechanic-in-northern-nj/#findComment-393018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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