A new view for gun control

[Mack Technician]

1. Liberalism

2. People developing political stupor

[mowerman]

Get rid of some of these high paid school officials that just fill a seat...instead invest in metal detectors and armed guards..sorry folks country is a war zone let’s. Face it and deal with it according schools and shopping malls done deal...bob


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[41chevy]

16 hours ago, macks in nigeria said:

They might not be but their powerful lobby makes it possible even for "nut cases" to have access to guns.

How?

[GA_Dave]

17 hours ago, macks in nigeria said:

They might not be but their powerful lobby makes it possible even for "nut cases" to have access to guns.

Not even close to being true!  The US already has laws to address the issue of guns and those who are deemed "nut cases" by a Court of Law.  It is our US Constitution and Bill of Rights that require the DUE PROCESS it takes for these people to be adjudicated as mentally incompetent, before any right to keep and bear arms can be taken away.  Is the NRA a powerful lobby?  Sure they are, but don't buy into the liberal media's vision of the "evil NRA".  The NRA is the oldest and most powerful CIVIL RIGHTS organization in the US. 

[41chevy]

1 hour ago, GA_Dave said:

Not even close to being true!  The US already has laws to address the issue of guns and those who are deemed "nut cases" by a Court of Law.  It is our US Constitution and Bill of Rights that require the DUE PROCESS it takes for these people to be adjudicated as mentally incompetent, before any right to keep and bear arms can be taken away.  Is the NRA a powerful lobby?  Sure they are, but don't buy into the liberal media's vision of the "evil NRA".  The NRA is the oldest and most powerful CIVIL RIGHTS organization in the US. 

And do not forget the records of crimes, arrests and school issues prior to the persons 18th birthday are sealed or expunged after they turn of age. If those records were allowed in the back ground checks and if the state and local agencies send their arrest and complaint records to the national data base and IF 38 states complied with the Federal back ground check data base rather than shrugging it off, the check would flag  and stop 99% of the people with "issues" who slide by.

Listen to David Hogg the new anti gun, anti NRA poster child who is going to speak at the UN Security Counsel on the issue of private gun ownership verse crime in the U.S. on Wednesday . Today on the news he was describing how putting a in his words " a giant clip in a rifle turns it into a fully automatic. He praised the 4 officers who stayed outside as being brave and smart for not going after a boy with a "machine gun" because they only had tiny pistols.  For a person whose father whom he says fought in both Gulf Wars and retired from the FBI he appears to have a jaded view.

 

 

Edited February 26, 2018 by 41chevy

[41chevy]

On 2/25/2018 at 4:56 AM, macks in nigeria said:

They might not be but their powerful lobby makes it possible even for "nut cases" to have access to guns.

 Again, How?

[little puppy]

Gun Control is not nor  has it ever been the problem. It is a big problem in out current society the everyone wants to blame something or someone else, stand up people and start holding ourselves and everyone responsible for or actions! YOU CAN NOT IDIOT PROOF THE WORLD!

[tjc transport]

but the democrats sure are trying to make everyone idiots.

[41chevy]

Best solution yet. Remove all warning labels, let nature run it's course and educate whats left. 

[grayhair]

I heard it reported that 38 states do not bother or ensure to report 100% of their felon convictions to the ATF or FBI for inclusion in the national background check database

[1965]

They do a thorough background check when they issue hazmat licenses; at least in ms; took forever; I’m glad I didn’t need them for my living 

[HeavyGunner]

8 hours ago, grayhair said:

I heard it reported that 38 states do not bother or ensure to report 100% of their felon convictions to the ATF or FBI for inclusion in the national background check database

And yet another example of government dropping the ball.  Hell we don't even know who's in this country but trying to find out makes us bad people. 

[41chevy]

3 hours ago, HeavyGunner said:

And yet another example of government dropping the ball.  Hell we don't even know who's in this country but trying to find out makes us bad people. 

The mayor of Oakland tells illegals they do not have to open their doors to I.C.E. and even broadcasts warning of  the times and locations of impending I.C.E raids. According to the "real" media she is a hero protecting our best and brightest people, but nothing done by her for school safety except bigger Gun Free Zone signs and "arming" school guards with pepper spray. This is what is running the asylums.

Edited February 27, 2018 by 41chevy

[HeavyGunner]

Don't forget that dirt bag Jerry Brown. He should face charges of treason against California and the rest of the U.S. But in in this day and age any sort of socialist anarchy is applauded.

[tjc transport]

i really wish Trump could convince congress to say " no enforcement of federal laws?  no federal support"

watch how fast all these "sanctuary cities" fall apart when the government teet dries up.

[Mack Technician]

Monday morning, In the absence of strict handgun laws, some success has been made in reducing crime in my state .........

 

A carjacking suspect was shot and killed by a man who had a concealed weapon on him in Milwaukee on Monday, officials said.

The Milwaukee Police Department said in a news release the 21-year-old suspect, identified as Carlos Martin, was shot after he attempted to carjack a 24-year-old man around 5:50 a.m. near the Milwaukee MachineTool Corporation.

"This is the worst thing that could possibly happen to someone," MPD Captain Andra Williams told FOX6.

He said the would-be carjacker was also armed, and that as carjacking and vehicle thefts continue to rise the incident should serve as a warning.

"This should be a wake-up call to everyone in the community that this is not a game. This is very serious," Williams told FOX6.

A man with a concealed-carry permit shot a carjacking suspect outside a Milwaukee business on Monday.  (FOX 6)

Police said the would-be victim had a concealed-carry permit, and was cooperating with the investigation.

MAN CARRYING CONCEALED PISTOL STOPS ATTACK ON UTAH POLICE OFFICER

Many who work in the area told FOX 6 that carjackers frequently target businesses looking for vehicles to steal, and many workers of businesses nearby are concealed-carry permit holders.

Alderman Cavalier Johnson, who represents the neighborhood on the city's northwest side, told FOX 6 the shooting was "completely preventable."

"That young man didn't have to die today. He didn't have to lose his life, but he made a bad decision and he did," he said.

Johnson said he wants parents to educate their children about the many dangers that come with crime.

"This isn't a game. This isn't live-action ‘Grand Theft Auto.’ You don't respawn after you're dead," he told FOX 6.

Edited February 27, 2018 by Mack Technician

[Mack Technician]

State of Wisconsin vs. Carlos D Martin

Milwaukee County Case Number 2016CF000791

 

The defendant Carlos D Martin was found guilty of the following charge(s) in this case.                                            Carlos D Martin was found guilty of Burglary-Building or Dwelling, a class F felony, Wisconsin Statutes 943.10(1m)(a).

Edited February 27, 2018 by Mack Technician

[Mack Technician]

State of Wisconsin vs. Carlos D Martin

Milwaukee County Case Number 2015CF004780

 

The defendant Carlos D Martin was found guilty of the following charge(s) in this case. Substantial Battery-Intend Bodily Harm, a class I felony, Wisconsin Statutes 940.19(2).

[Mack Technician]

Call me insensitive, but my in-laws live/work in Milwaukee and I thank the guy who flushed the toilet on our Carlos D Martin. 

[41chevy]

The man who is doing my steel bridge, stopped at Burger King on Rte15 in Gordensville Va just west of 64 to grab breakfast and coffee for us. The manager (about 25) told Ben he would not be served and had to leave. He told him that his hat had the NRA badge on it and if he did not leave the police would be called. Ben informed him as he was getting ready to leave, that the emblem   is for  USMC of which he did 30 years in. Being  laid back man I'm sure there was a bit more language involved.

Edited February 27, 2018 by 41chevy

[tjc transport]

there was also one today where three armed bad guys with guns tried breaking into a house that was guarded by a homeowner with an AR-15..

end result was armed bad guys: 0

good guy with AR-15: 3

of course, the news media will never report this though. 

 

[Job41]

A business man who owned ships in the early 1800's wrote a letter to Alexander Hamilton about his problem he was having with pirates.  He asked Hamilton if the second amendment allows him to put canons on his ships so that his crews could defend themselves.  I can not remember the exact response of Hamilton but to put it simply,he wrote that it did allow him!  

Taking a slightly different tact but is absolutely pertinant to the discussion of the second amendment is the terminology of that time has to be understood.

In the second amendment, something people like to misinterpret is the term "well regulated militia."  The term well regulated meant timely, or quick to respond.  Clocks were often referred to as regulators.    It had nothing to do with restricting the type of firearm that you owned.  In fact if you showed up to volunteer in George Washingtons army and you did not have a firearm with you, he would be blow his head gasket (quite angry!).   He complained about it in some of his letters.       

 

Best Regard,  Job41

 

 

[41chevy]

1 hour ago, Job41 said:

A business man who owned ships in the early 1800's wrote a letter to Alexander Hamilton about his problem he was having with pirates.  He asked Hamilton if the second amendment allows him to put canons on his ships so that his crews could defend themselves.  I can not remember the exact response of Hamilton but to put it simply,he wrote that it did allow him!  

Taking a slightly different tact but is absolutely pertinant to the discussion of the second amendment is the terminology of that time has to be understood.

In the second amendment, something people like to misinterpret is the term "well regulated militia."  The term well regulated meant timely, or quick to respond.  Clocks were often referred to as regulators.    It had nothing to do with restricting the type of firearm that you owned.  In fact if you showed up to volunteer in George Washingtons army and you did not have a firearm with you, he would be blow his head gasket (quite angry!).   He complained about it in some of his letters.       

 

Best Regard,  Job41

 

 

Yep. The same as the new interpretation of Separation of Church and State.  Meaning no government mandated religion.

[B MACK]

And lets not forget cars and big trucks and the small rental vans.  All of these have been used in mass killing attacks. we better ban these vehichles too .  like the gun, these cars and trucks do this killing totally on their own,   no one is behind the wheel just like the gun must go off by itself, without some one pulling the trigger.       HA HA             We have laws. we just need to enforce them!!!!!

[Hobert62]

1 hour ago, B MACK said:

 We have laws. we just need to enforce them!!!!!

And hold the guilty parties accountable for there actions.