Popular Post j hancock Posted April 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2018 Off brand doing some humping in 1980 on Rt. 5 in the Windsor/Hartland, VT area. No signs, lights or flags. Just do it! 3 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Looks like a White 4000. What a "backbreaker" on "Velvet Ride" suspension..... Used to see them on the roads a lot. Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Yup, Velvet Ride, Not so much. Best to be loaded both ways. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
h67st Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Was the velvet ride the one with a big block o' rubber that was the only thing between you and the highway? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, h67st said: Was the velvet ride the one with a big block o' rubber that was the only thing between you and the highway? a reasonable description Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, carlotpilot said: a reasonable description Bit doughnut with a hole in the middle and an encircling arm that articulated, or rocked. Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Rob said: Bit doughnut with a hole in the middle and an encircling arm that articulated, or rocked. years ago i made a few trips with a7400 cabover with that mess under it. kinda like ridin a smooth drum roller over a boulder patch Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 I had a 69 Diamond Reo C609, (I think) with no front brakes. A real "treat" to drive bobtail in the rain. No front brakes coupled with not being able to keep the tandems on the ground made for an interesting combination. Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted April 21, 2018 Author Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, j hancock said: Invented by a guy named Willets and White one way or another had an exclusive on it. We had a lot of 4564's in mid 60's. 250 Cummins, Rt-910 RR, Velvet Ride and 38 rears. I never thought they were a bad riding truck-for sure when compared to F-2000 D Binders we had with Hendrickson "rubber blocks"- -I think it was called Shear Ride. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 I think the rubber doughnet got hard and inflexible as it aged. That one I had was stiff and rode just as bad as 44k Camelback or Hendrickson suspension bobtail on a short tractor. Mine had a 6-71 Detroit Diesel, (220hp) and RT-910 trans on 4.11 Rockwell rears. Ran good without a trailer but different story altogether when it had about 40k behind it. It did however stop very good then..... Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS7 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 How did that White 4000 move what looks like a Cat D8H without 500HP+ over those Vermont hills? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 6 hours ago, TS7 said: How did that White 4000 move what looks like a Cat D8H without 500HP+ over those Vermont hills? Same way everything was moved back then-with a lot of patience! Think of it-534 Fords and 549 Binders competing with 220's 250's. 6-71's and 318's And a 335 Cummins was a "big dog" back then Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 There has been literally gillions of tons of freight moved across all parts of this country with less than 250hp. 1 Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS7 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 That is my point, a truck setup right could move a lot weight. A 534 Ford T-950 was a good low cost dump truck. A road builder I worked for in the 1970's still had some with automatics, they were better off road in sand than any other truck. These trucks were used maybe 5-6 months in a year at most. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Ahh gawd, a 534 Ford engine. Hard to make three mpg with those loaded most time in anything but pavement. Damned bulletproof engine but economy????? Those T-950 series were a good platform for dumptrucks. Think of all the 170hp, and 180hp Mack Thermodyne diesel trucks/tractors out there before the horsepower wars heated up in the mid to late 70's. They still got the job done without air conditioning, power steering, automatic transmission, etc. 2 Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 On 4/19/2018 at 8:16 AM, j hancock said: Off brand doing some humping in 1980 on Rt. 5 in the Windsor/Hartland, VT area. No signs, lights or flags. Just do it! the spookiest part of the trip in this picture is loading the machine over the tail as that trailer does not appear to be an rgn. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) I think it's an old mechanical RGN as the front is sloped from my perspective. If you look just in front of the left dozer track you see an angle chain run from the deck to the neck. Always had to hold them up unlike a hydraulic RGN which will hold it's place. I pulled several of them in years gone by..... Edited April 22, 2018 by Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Drove a 950 Ford tandem 534 with a 5by3 when we were building the city of Margate Florida.unlicensed job site truck! Took a gallon of hydraulic fluid in the hoist every night tried to split it one time and the tranny stuck in two gears! Had enough power to just use the main but I had to try! What a brute! Drove a well maintained one of them in a car hauler would outrun most diesels til you had to stop for gas! Running rural Pa and Wva had to fill up in little gas stations with the trailer sticking out in the street! Today's drivers don't know what they're missing! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53150-white-with-dozer/#findComment-397596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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