carlotpilot Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 started my 440 chrysler up today after sitting for about a year. it promptly blew the oil filter seal ring apart and dumped a couple quarts of oil on the floor. any ideas ? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Relief valve stuck or regulator valve stuck. I think older models might not had relief valves and would blow filter seals Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-399931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 I agree relief vale stuck. Generally it dumps pressure at around 80 psi . Put a mechanical gauge on it with an other filter and check pressure on start up. Some times they free up after the expanding / exploding oil filter show. Pressure relief replacement is not to bad on the big blocks. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-399934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayhair Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Agree wit '41. By the way, was it a Fram filter? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-399936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 1 hour ago, grayhair said: Agree wit '41. By the way, was it a Fram filter? not a fram hastings housing and regulator is removible from eng. i think Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-399942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Mopar is handy with external oil pump. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Freightrain said: Mopar is handy with external oil pump. yeah it looks like i`m going to have to pull it off to` tried another brand filter today same reaction only i had a big pan under it so not as much mess one thing for sure the pump works good Edited June 5, 2018 by carlotpilot 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Truck Shop Posted June 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2018 When R/B Chrysler-Dodge engines set for periods of time blowing the filter is not that uncommon. I have witnessed that before with a 413 in a motor home that sat for four years. Regulator in pump was stuck on that one. And the oil sending unit started to leak right away also. Friend bought a 67 Imperial with a RB 440 for the engine, mainly the heads. Last time it was run was 1982, on test fire it shot the filter can off where it was pressed together. Truck Shop 2 1 Quote One ping only Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) wonder if there`s a way to unstick the regulator without taking the pump off and tearing it apart this one so far has just blown the rubber seal out .i`m going to try about a hundred lbs. air pressure into the feed back hole and see if that works before i pull the pump Edited June 5, 2018 by carlotpilot Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Doesn't the valve come out the side of the pump? It's been ages since I've looked at one closely. 1 Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, carlotpilot said: wonder if there`s a way to unstick the regulator without taking the pump off and tearing it apart You can do it on the engine fairly easy. Remove the large "NUT" on the pump and pull out the relief spring , spray in the port where the spring is and the oil filter side with solvent a few times and let soak, reassemble and fire it up. Edited June 5, 2018 by 41chevy 2 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Or remove nut, rotate engine with bar and wait for oil to push the spring/plug out. Just guard yourself from flying parts/oil!!! Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Freightrain said: Doesn't the valve come out the side of the pump? It's been ages since I've looked at one closely. there is a plug pointing to the back of the motor that i think is the pressure relief valve` can get to it from under the car but i believe there are two valves in that mess we`ll figure it out one or the other methods will work Edited June 5, 2018 by carlotpilot Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 41chevy Posted June 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Freightrain said: Or remove nut, rotate engine with bar and wait for oil to push the spring/plug out. Just guard yourself from flying parts/oil!!! Easier to just leave it in my Mopar Big Block container for me. 2 2 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 maybe i could just borrow one from you Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, 41chevy said: Remove the large "NUT" on the pump and pull out the relief spring , spray in the port with solvent a few times and let soak, reassemble and fire it up. thats the easeist one so far Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, carlotpilot said: maybe i could just borrow one from you I got 70 or 80 413, 426 wedges and 440 TNT engines plus 2 dozen or so Hemi drag engines. 425 to 2500 h.p. we could find one for you. Edited June 5, 2018 by 41chevy 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, 41chevy said: I got 70 or 80 413, 426 wedges and 440 TNT engines plus 2 dozen or so Hemi drag engines. 425 to 2500 h.p. we could find one for you. out of that line up i bet we could Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck Shop Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 8 hours ago, 41chevy said: I got 70 or 80 413, 426 wedges and 440 TNT engines plus 2 dozen or so Hemi drag engines. 425 to 2500 h.p. we could find one for you. And here I thought I had several B/RB engines, I had eleven B/RB engines. I sold the last one a 383 two years ago. Truck Shop Quote One ping only Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 8 hours ago, 41chevy said: Easier to just leave it in my Mopar Big Block container for me. You got a bb Chevy container too? They getting harder to find now & always pricey? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 BBC? Pfft. Try a 427/428 FE! Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Freightrain said: BBC? Pfft. Try a 427/428 FE! Yea I know; just a Chevy man. Saw 1 of those hemi fords in a mustang, think it was a very rare car, high $$$. It was massive. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg1 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I just got my 78 Dodge pickup with 440 state inspected last Friday first time in six years and went to drive it to work on Tuesday and motor came apart. Haven't had time to look at it but pieces are sticking through the oil pan. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 41chevy Posted June 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2018 16 hours ago, 1965 said: You got a bb Chevy container too? They getting harder to find now & always pricey? I only have 5 or 6 but all 427's. The 413's were from Cotton Owens 1963 Dodge Stock car. Two of the 426 Wedges are Max Wedge II one is a Max Wedge III I got all the 440's when the NYS V.F.D. tournament rules changed to a 400 c.i limit. I was buying the C truck racing engines for $200 to $300 a piece for complete less distributors, Hemi's I was paying $250 for. The Chevies were cheaper $100 each complete. Even have 2 Hype Pack / Mexicn Export 225 Tower of Power slant sixes. I just bought a Shotgun Ford for my ex Mickey Thompson Pinto funnycar, 787 c.i. 3600 h.p. on Alcohol paid close to a new loaded Fusion would cost. Here an example of what most of my 440's came from Hosted on Fotki 4 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 12 hours ago, keg1 said: I just got my 78 Dodge pickup with 440 state inspected last Friday first time in six years and went to drive it to work on Tuesday and motor came apart. Haven't had time to look at it but pieces are sticking through the oil pan. Uugh. A vented oil pan makes for a real bad day. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53487-440-chrysler/#findComment-400119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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