Moparmike Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Well picked up another rd last week drove it home 250 miles no problem at all ..engine has a slight tick so carried to the shop to get looked over rocker has play in it.. as my idea of a cost for a repair such as this..don't need a lot of down time with the truck middle of the season.. What parts are involved Cam lifters New cam bearing Thanks for any help Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 hopefully the face of the lifter hasn't come off, almost immediately ruins the camshaft. terry Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH Farms 2 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Worst case is cam cam bearings and lifters. Had to do that on my E6 couple years ago Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moparmike Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 10 hours ago, IH Farms 2 said: Worst case is cam cam bearings and lifters. Had to do that on my E6 couple years ago That's what I'm praying on ..mack gave me a list of 6300.00 parts no labor.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH Farms 2 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Moparmike said: That's what I'm praying on ..mack gave me a list of 6300.00 parts no labor.. Check pai might be a little better price wise. That's what's in my truck has been fine for the last 2.5 years Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
880joe Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I'm doing a camshaft in an etec now Mack was cheaper on the Cam it was a little under a 1000 Pai was about 50 a piece cheaper on lifter Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moparmike Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 Mack told me 960 cam 360 lifters going to replace bearing along with cam hopefully that will be all I need to replace..anything else you guys usually replace when doing the cam Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex g Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Curious whats on the parts list for $6300 from Mack. At that rate it would probably be a $12000 bill with labor Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) Just be aware that you need A press to get the gear off the cam if your back yarding this ! And if its Eteck pay attention to the cam Key they can be off set depending on the horsepower! If it is a standard E7 They may be quoting you an oil pump in that price as these can become ruined with all the filings from the cam grindings! Edited July 3, 2018 by fjh Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moparmike Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 They said to replace all eup rollers fuel lines oil pan gasket and a few other things I cant remember right now..few washers are 54.00 bolts are 60.00 key is about 60.00 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) You used to be able to buy a kit fuel lines ar not nessary on older engines we do Rollers only the two on the offending cylinder and the eup roller if nessary you also need magnets to hold the lifters up!you need to determine if our have ceramic or steel rollers on the lifters! Edited July 3, 2018 by fjh Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moparmike Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 21 hours ago, fjh said: You used to be able to buy a kit fuel lines ar not nessary on older engines we do Rollers only the two on the offending cylinder and the eup roller if nessary you also need magnets to hold the lifters up!you need to determine if our have ceramic or steel rollers on the lifters! So just the 2 on the offending cylinder lifters and eup rollers .I was thinking of getting all new lifters but that would save some cash ..plan to carry it to the shop Monday hopefully not a long line ahead of me..will report back on everything we find and replace..thank you all for the help Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Technician Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) I’d replace all lifters and followers unless it was a ceramic SetUp. Oil pump. Bearings. Check updates to brake pins, etc. Last I checked PAI will sell a complete camshaft kit and Mack made you itemize. Guys at the dealership we’re giving the blessing to buy the complete kits from PAI. Nice hard working rig, good luck! what’s it power to? HP? Edited July 4, 2018 by Mack Technician Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM626 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I paid 1343 for my cam 166 x12 for lifter assemblies 206 x6 for eup rollers Plus 2000 labor 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 As Mack Tech mentioned I agree with him if it were mine With the steel rollers its likley worth replacing all the rollers How ever If You are paying some one to do this job and are expecting a warranty your at their mercy some what and should error on the side of caution! not replacing the rollers on the steel is a judgment call by whom ever is looking at them if they are all scratch up and scuffed and it is clear to see they need to all be changed ! If they choose to ignore the obvious because your trying to save a buck and don't care about the out come then you could pay twice its a roll of the dice , The ceramic( usually) if they break only effect The one cyl for the most part ! ion Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moparmike Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 23 hours ago, Mack Technician said: I’d replace all lifters and followers unless it was a ceramic SetUp. Oil pump. Bearings. Check updates to brake pins, etc. Last I checked PAI will sell a complete camshaft kit and Mack made you itemize. Guys at the dealership we’re giving the blessing to buy the complete kits from PAI. Nice hard working rig, good luck! what’s it power to? HP? I was told 460 but I'm not sure just picked it up last week..where are mack serial number on the block Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moparmike Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 Do you have to be a member to get parts from pai 23 hours ago, Mack Technician said: I’d replace all lifters and followers unless it was a ceramic SetUp. Oil pump. Bearings. Check updates to brake pins, etc. Last I checked PAI will sell a complete camshaft kit and Mack made you itemize. Guys at the dealership we’re giving the blessing to buy the complete kits from PAI. Nice hard working rig, good luck! what’s it power to? HP? I was told 460 but I'm not sure just picked it up last week..where are mack serial number on the block Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Technician Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Check info tag on the valve cover. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moparmike Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 Valve cover been charged for some reason.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-401985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Technician Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Impact has a part number. Whether or not you can get the tag requires a phone call. Don’t use my number, it’s off a random 2000. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-402010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moparmike Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 Well looks like cam is bad ..would I be better off get a used motor or just fix what I have ..just purchased this truck ready to get it out to work but now this..2001 E7 460 quint axle dump thanks for all and any help guys Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-402516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Depends on what you want If it were mine I would fix!If I had the work for it! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-402540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Technician Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I’d fix the engine, it’s a pretty common item. Just a heads up..... Buyer beware It’s the age of “oil sample everything”. If your seller saw metal it may explain the well timed, 250-mile-later, cam blow out after time of sale. It’s hard to imagine him getting it that close before sale, but not unheard of. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-402561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moparmike Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 I think he knew looking over the paper work he hadn't long purchased the truck himself..he has 5 trucks now so this explains why he got rid of it I guess.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/53719-2001-mack-rd-cam-shaft-problems-we-think/#findComment-402567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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