Mack Technician Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, 1965 said: Don’t think it matters; none of the cups work anyways. Couldn’t help myself. This week a Volvo factory rep/trainer told me the next attempt uses a burnishing technique to make the cups mate for a more true seal? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-404319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackpro Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 4 hours ago, 1965 said: Don’t think it matters; none of the cups work anyways. Couldn’t help myself. Lol, guess what I was doing at work today ?.................yep , cups and injectors. However it wasn't the cups fault this time. 4 of the reman injectiors were leaking fuel into the oil. 3 were slightly leaking around the plunger/spring . One was leaking badly at the injectior body above the head level. This is not the first time we have had this happen 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-404330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 15 hours ago, Mackpro said: Lol , I hope no one really thinks I said that! And a Ezra Brooks, my favorite bourbon this week! Even though it's not a true bourbon ( not made in KY) So many to choose from down here. YUP An d You Said It out LOUD! 😂 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-404353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Mackpro said: Lol, guess what I was doing at work today ?.................yep , cups and injectors. However it wasn't the cups fault this time. 4 of the reman injectiors were leaking fuel into the oil. 3 were slightly leaking around the plunger/spring . One was leaking badly at the injectior body above the head level. This is not the first time we have had this happen 9 hours ago, Mackpro said: Lol, guess what I was doing at work today ?.................yep , cups and injectors. However it wasn't the cups fault this time. 4 of the reman injectiors were leaking fuel into the oil. 3 were slightly leaking around the plunger/spring . One was leaking badly at the injectior body above the head level. This is not the first time we have had this happen Good to see the reman center is keeping its bulldog reputation as well! Same old same old!😣🙄 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-404354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Technician Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) On 8/17/2018 at 10:21 AM, kscarbel2 said: I like Deere Deere is our cost/downtime money pit. Issue is under built front ends on Deere and CAT. We use tight-circle machines that can maneuver under a 16-18 yard bucket, so far only the Volvo can do it without ruining the front end. Machine/hours/cost per hour. All separate machines from a snapshot. Last three can be grouped for age. Add 4% for every year of age differential. John D 824K 24,963 $15.77 (without collision damage included $14.17 per hour) John D 824K 22,963 $15.42 Group 2014 cost John D 824K 19,501 $12.40 2014 cost Cat 972K 18,321 $13.39 (without collision damage included $9.83 per hour) 2018 cost Volvo L180H 17,232 $7.08 Edited May 23, 2019 by Mack Technician Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-404380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike jacques Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 U have better pic of rocker lift And specs Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-422878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike jacques Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 U have number for timing tools Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-422879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-mac Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 On 8/17/2018 at 9:21 AM, Mack Technician said: Is this what you ended up with or am I outdated? Keep in mind we are in 2010 emissions so I'm possibly outdated to the dealer intentionally. The pictured L180HL machine showed up without a common rail. Inj Cup Puller Inj Cup Swedge The latest design cup installer pushes a teardrop shaped piece down through the cup tip and then pulls it back through. I've never seen a puller like that. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-423444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 On 8/17/2018 at 6:04 PM, Mackpro said: Actually there are 3 install tools. One for stainless cups, one for the early stepped bottom copper cups and one for the standard flat bottom copper cups. Do you have the part number for the install tool for conicals? I never knew they had one other than the pull thru. Is the push thru easier to use? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-423465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Technician Posted May 23, 2019 Author Share Posted May 23, 2019 8 hours ago, steeler said: Do you have the part number for the install tool for conicals? I never knew they had one other than the pull thru. Is the push thru easier to use? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-423482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Technician Posted May 23, 2019 Author Share Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) The 8888.... number at bottom of screen is a bag with replacement swag bits. If you see VOE on the box that is a “Volvo Original Equipment” number. That means it was cheaper to buy from Volvo. If you want the numbers Grab it since I have to erase pics soon, too little storage left. If you give Mack the Volvo number of any of these their system will automatically supersede to a Mack #. Edited May 23, 2019 by Mack Technician Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-423483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Technician Posted May 23, 2019 Author Share Posted May 23, 2019 On 5/15/2019 at 9:42 PM, Mike jacques said: U have better pic of rocker lift And specs No Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-423486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Technician Posted May 23, 2019 Author Share Posted May 23, 2019 On 5/15/2019 at 9:44 PM, Mike jacques said: U have number for timing tools It’s a kit. J-44514-B Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-423488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Technician Posted May 23, 2019 Author Share Posted May 23, 2019 On 8/18/2018 at 7:06 AM, fjh said: Good to see the reman center is keeping its bulldog reputation as well! Same old same old!😣🙄 On 8/17/2018 at 10:00 PM, Mackpro said: Lol, guess what I was doing at work today ?.................yep , cups and injectors. However it wasn't the cups fault this time. 4 of the reman injectiors were leaking fuel into the oil. 3 were slightly leaking around the plunger/spring . One was leaking badly at the injectior body above the head level. This is not the first time we have had this happen Are you guys seeing many tip break off's when removing SS conical cups Vs copper cups? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-423507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackpro Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Only saw a few of the stainless cup tips break off. Saw lots of the copper cup tip break off when using the newer style puller. Lucky we held onto the old style tool that taps threads into the cup tip and then uses a pulller that threads into the cup . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-423524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Mackpro said: Only saw a few of the stainless cup tips break off. Saw lots of the copper cup tip break off when using the newer style puller. Lucky we held onto the old style tool that taps threads into the cup tip and then uses a pulller that threads into the cup . And don't get lazy when tapping the copper sleeve and not go all the way thru. Ask me how I know. Had to pull the head for that mistake. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-423549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 12 hours ago, Mack Technician said: The 8888.... number at bottom of screen is a bag with replacement swag bits. If you see VOE on the box that is a “Volvo Original Equipment” number. That means it was cheaper to buy from Volvo. If you want the numbers Grab it since I have to erase pics soon, too little storage left. If you give Mack the Volvo number of any of these their system will automatically supersede to a Mack #. Thank you! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-423550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackpro Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 On 5/23/2019 at 6:58 PM, steeler said: And don't get lazy when tapping the copper sleeve and not go all the way thru. Ask me how I know. Had to pull the head for that mistake. We would pull the intake manifold off and drop the intake valve down. Then blow air into the injector hole and blow the little pieces out the intake . Saved us form pulling the head off . 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-423846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 On 5/28/2019 at 1:47 PM, Mackpro said: We would pull the intake manifold off and drop the intake valve down. Then blow air into the injector hole and blow the little pieces out the intake . Saved us form pulling the head off . Yup, I shoulda bought a valve spring compressor! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-423936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackpro Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, steeler said: Yup, I shoulda bought a valve spring compressor! There is a factory valve spring compressor that works awesome , it’s downfall is that the injector has to be removed 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-423943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike jacques Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) U know what different about top of piston besides the arrow Edited June 27, 2019 by Mike jacques Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-426213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike jacques Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Got 2009 inframe will not run wasn’t running before found drop valve any ideala Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-426214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-mac Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 I have an extra rocker shaft lifting tool if someone's interested I'll make them a deal. pm me Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-452155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-mac Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I have a mp8 rocker shaft lifting tool. Gonna put it on eBay this evening. It’s the real deal! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54047-mack-mp8-tools-vs-volvo-d13-tools-buyer-beware/page/2/#findComment-480172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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