They knew over 100 years ago

[kscarbel2]

Note the date and the numbers. I for one found this newspaper article interesting.

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[fjh]

I also Kev ! It must mean !

They had Fake news back then too I guess! !🙄

(In jest!)

[Dirtymilkman]

Haha. Keep warming it up. It's still to cold in Minnesota

 

[grayhair]

Ah yes, but we are so much smarter now.  Rather than burning tons of coal we are instead producing tons of radioactive waste some of which will remain radioactive for 300 000 years.  Of course that doesn't matter either what with Fukushima still gradually poisoning the ocean 7 years after the original debacle.   Because there are people greedy enough (GE) and stupid enough (GE) to build nuclear reactors on geological faults our fate is pretty much sealed.  Somebody please correct me and say it ain't so.

Edited August 23, 2018 by grayhair

[kscarbel2]

1 hour ago, grayhair said:

Ah yes, but we are so much smarter now.  Rather than burning tons of coal we are instead producing tons of radioactive waste some of which will remain radioactive for 300 000 years.  Of course that doesn't matter either what with Fukushima still gradually poisoning the ocean 7 years after the original debacle.   Because there are people greedy enough (GE) and stupid enough (GE) to build nuclear reactors on geological faults our fate is pretty much sealed.  Somebody please correct me and say it ain't so.

You are 5,000 percent correct !

[kscarbel2]

The world is approximately 4.54 (± 0.05) billion years years old.

And we're told that mankind has only been on earth about 200,000 years.

The average age of death is about 78.

So considering the earth's age versus our time here, it's like checking into a hotel for less than one minute.

We are mere guests here......we have no right to abuse it. Rather, we should show a great deal more respect.

We're lucky to exist.....period, much less on an absolutely beautiful world, not to mention the only one (we know of) that supports life.

 

[41chevy]

So pass stiff laws that only Wind, Solar and Geo thermal are legal, bankrupt and jail any abuse of the law. Worked fine 250 years ago  Problem solved.

[HeavyGunner]

If there were easy options we would take them but unfortunately any option we take makes life harder and or shorter for another human. Quit generating electricity and we have a smorgasbord of problems that follow. Deaths from no a/c, no way to refrigerate food or medicine, industry jobs can only be done in daylight hours. Quit using pesticides and fertilizer and we go back to 60-80 bushel an acre corn instead of over 300 bushels an acre (that goes for all crops, different yield but just as drastic  drops) so half the world or more will starve out. I see the concern but I don’t see any fair to decide who should go without which comfort. We all want food, electricity l, medicine etc and I don’t see any viable way to make real change without drastically dropping the world population by taking any of these things away. 

[Dirtymilkman]

58 minutes ago, HeavyGunner said:

If there were easy options we would take them but unfortunately any option we take makes life harder and or shorter for another human. Quit generating electricity and we have a smorgasbord of problems that follow. Deaths from no a/c, no way to refrigerate food or medicine, industry jobs can only be done in daylight hours. Quit using pesticides and fertilizer and we go back to 60-80 bushel an acre corn instead of over 300 bushels an acre (that goes for all crops, different yield but just as drastic  drops) so half the world or more will starve out. I see the concern but I don’t see any fair to decide who should go without which comfort. We all want food, electricity l, medicine etc and I don’t see any viable way to make real change without drastically dropping the world population by taking any of these things away. 

We could get rid of the Middle East. 

[Ezrider]

the human race is a invasive species that has taken over the planet and over populated. at some point the earth will balance itself out by wiping the majority if not all of us off the planet. the simple fact is no mater what you do the earth cannot support the population of the human race. 

[Mack Technician]

 

All things considered we have enough naturally occurring energy beneath our feet to wipe the slate clean tomorrow.

Google search “1815, the year there was no summer”. There was a spontaneous minor ice age 200 years ago. If Tambora was a fuzz bigger we may not be having this conversation. Pennsylvania had ice on the rivers in August. 

I like To remind myself the worse that can happen is i die......which was going to happen anyway. 

[41chevy]

2 hours ago, HeavyGunner said:

If there were easy options we would take them but unfortunately any option we take makes life harder and or shorter for another human. Quit generating electricity and we have a smorgasbord of problems that follow. Deaths from no a/c, no way to refrigerate food or medicine, industry jobs can only be done in daylight hours. Quit using pesticides and fertilizer and we go back to 60-80 bushel an acre corn instead of over 300 bushels an acre (that goes for all crops, different yield but just as drastic  drops) so half the world or more will starve out. I see the concern but I don’t see any fair to decide who should go without which comfort. We all want food, electricity l, medicine etc and I don’t see any viable way to make real change without drastically dropping the world population by taking any of these things away. 

 

As I recall Oblama and teamstergrrl had it all laid out for use with 100% solar and wind with zero Fossil fuel usage and even had the food issues worked out by using long pork as the staple.

My post was sarcastic about outlawing it. Just seems the people who advocate and push the sins of carbon based fuel are also the ones who do not live by example or offer viable affordable alternatives. If someone is going to preach  the sins of carbon based fuel they best be dressed in all plant fiber except for the fish head sandals  and walking or riding an all natural bit of transportation, live with not utilities, heating or cooling unless it is natural

Edited August 24, 2018 by 41chevy

[Mack Technician]

6 minutes ago, 41chevy said:

 

 food issues worked out by using long pork as the staple.

Long Pig!!!! Lol

Maybe I should pre-sell my carcass to them for $500 since I’m absolutely unprepared for an apocalypse. May as well enjoy the cash now? 

[41chevy]

9 hours ago, grayhair said:

Ah yes, but we are so much smarter now.  Rather than burning tons of coal we are instead producing tons of radioactive waste some of which will remain radioactive for 300 000 years.  Of course that doesn't matter either what with Fukushima still gradually poisoning the ocean 7 years after the original debacle.   Because there are people greedy enough (GE) and stupid enough (GE) to build nuclear reactors on geological faults our fate is pretty much sealed.  Somebody please correct me and say it ain't so.

The Generators and reactor units were designed by G. E.. Fuji Heavy Industries, Tokyo Electric Light, International Nuclear Energy Development of Japan Co., Ltd, Innovation Network Corporation of Japan and the MAI Consortium LTD built and maintained it. Kind of tough to blame G.E. for it IMO.

Edited August 24, 2018 by 41chevy

[41chevy]

2 minutes ago, Mack Technician said:

Long Pig!!!! Lol

Maybe I should pre-sell my carcass to them for $500 since I’m absolutely unprepared for an apocalypse. May as well enjoy the cash now? 

Few probably know what it is.

[Phase 1]

6 hours ago, Ezrider said:

the human race is a invasive species that has taken over the planet and over populated. at some point the earth will balance itself out by wiping the majority if not all of us off the planet. the simple fact is no mater what you do the earth cannot support the population of the human race. 

True. The bottom line is too many people that want too much stuff.

And regulating the population isn't going to happen. No country wants to be weak by having too few people.

[mrsmackpaul]

A very interesting thing came across faceless book the other day 

 

The M.I.T I'm fairly sure is Melbourne Institute of Technology ,  was called the R.M.I.T back in my day

 

 

 

 

Paul 

[HeavyGunner]

9 hours ago, 41chevy said:

 

As I recall Oblama and teamstergrrl had it all laid out for use with 100% solar and wind with zero Fossil fuel usage and even had the food issues worked out by using long pork as the staple.

My post was sarcastic about outlawing it. Just seems the people who advocate and push the sins of carbon based fuel are also the ones who do not live by example or offer viable affordable alternatives. If someone is going to preach  the sins of carbon based fuel they best be dressed in all plant fiber except for the fish head sandals  and walking or riding an all natural bit of transportation, live with not utilities, heating or cooling unless it is natural

I knew you were being sarcastic I just wanted to put out the reality of things. Either we quit progressing as a society which will result in a massive die from starvation and disease or we try and manage pollution the best we can. Nothing peeves me off more than the hypocrite protester. Protest oil drilling then walk back to your car with your plastic water bottle and drive home, protest logging sites or gravel pits then have the gall to use the highways to drive to their homesite. Like I said there are no simple solutions. 

[Ezrider]

10 hours ago, Phase 1 said:

True. The bottom line is too many people that want too much stuff.

And regulating the population isn't going to happen. No country wants to be weak by having too few people.

Population control won't/shouldn't happen. It goes against human nature. 

[41chevy]

13 hours ago, HeavyGunner said:

I knew you were being sarcastic I just wanted to put out the reality of things. Either we quit progressing as a society which will result in a massive die from starvation and disease or we try and manage pollution the best we can. Nothing peeves me off more than the hypocrite protester. Protest oil drilling then walk back to your car with your plastic water bottle and drive home, protest logging sites or gravel pits then have the gall to use the highways to drive to their homesite. Like I said there are no simple solutions. 

There are very simple solutions but not smiled upon.

My favorite is the 2 poster boys of Global Warming. DiCaprio and Gore. Both take their limo/SUV to the Heli port for the hop to their 747 to fly 700 miles. From the plane to the limo to the lecture hall to speak on the sins of  Carbon based fuel.   Kind of like a PETA person telling me the sins of eating meat while wearing Italian Leather shoes on their feet sitting on the fine German Leather seats of their BMW. Going to preach it you damn well better be a shining example.

Edited August 25, 2018 by 41chevy

[Timmyb]

On 8/25/2018 at 2:37 AM, Ezrider said:

Population control won't/shouldn't happen. It goes against human nature. 

Does China’s one child policy ring a bell?

[kscarbel2]

1 hour ago, Timmyb said:

Does China’s one child policy ring a bell?

For the record, China ended its one-child policy in 2015.

[kscarbel2]

On 8/24/2018 at 2:37 PM, Ezrider said:

Population control won't/shouldn't happen. It goes against human nature. 

Go to India, Pakistan and Bangladesh and say that.

[Mack Technician]

Feminist’s and socialist’s in US managed to kill off >45 million American Citizens with abortion since the 70’s. US is a step ahead of many countries in murdering its citizenship. Disproportionate number black, so they also managed to pulled off an ethnic cleansing, legally. 

Edited August 26, 2018 by Mack Technician

[Dirtymilkman]

34 minutes ago, Mack Technician said:

Feminist’s and socialist’s in US managed to kill off >45 million American Citizens with abortion since the 70’s. US is a step ahead of many countries in murdering its citizenship. Disproportionate number black, so they also managed to pulled off an ethnic cleansing, legally. 

Could you imagine the mess this country would be in if it weren't legal?  Personally I'd never do it but none of us men will ever know what a woman is feeling or going through. I am happy there are people that know enough that theyd never be able to take care of their baby.