Bullheaded Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Spotted this at a pit I am hauling out of in northern Ontario, Canada. I was kinda surprised to see an Anthem used for this application with wide base steers. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 Or how about a tri-drive Anthem. Truck and pics courtesy of Nortrux Mack, Edmonton, Alberta. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 And a flat top tri-drive. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 26 minutes ago, Bullheaded said: Spotted this at a pit I am hauling out of in northern Ontario, Canada. I was kinda surprised to see an Anthem used for this application with wide base steers. I'm sure it's a "Dumb" Question,!!! But, why do the Trailer axles have Different Spreads?? A big, No No.. here.. Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bullheaded Posted September 2, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2018 Ontario Canada is all about big spreads to get max allowable. And now we have SPIF......where all trucks and trailers must have self equalizing, steering lift axles. And you can pull a pony trailer with a twin steer tri-drive, but you get penalized with a twin steer tandem. Just more government stupidity dreamed up by people that have never driven a truck. 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxbxc Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I would appear that some MACK dealers still know enough about trucks, to be able to build what the customer wants not just what is in the brochures on his desk. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 Nortrux is one of the few dealers in Canada where I see they still spec all pedigreed trucks. Mack transmissions and rears and suspensions. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 IIRC the Granite chassis was an option on the Pinnacle, good to see that option still available on the Anthem. Problem is, that capable chassis is going to need more than 505 HP from a 13 liter engine to run at 50 tons and above... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Looks good as a dump hauler but needs the Cummins x15 to compete with Pete. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 I think it looks better like that with the big steers and flat top than it does as a highway truck. I just wish they could find a designer than can come up with some better looking air intakes than those screen doors on the sides of the hood. At least those goofy mirrors can be deleted. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 And they need the stylized bulldog mirrors. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lmackattack Posted September 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2018 im still not sold on them. even when they are "dressed up" they still look like a entry level plastic truck. The look of them are just not what I would want in a truck. the body lines are all wrong with the hood. it needs to be a little flatter on top and longer so that the engine is under the hood not the cab. the small hood with a engine stuffed under the cab just screams $$$$$ every time it needs a simple repair.The air tank set up is not pleasing to the eye. Stack location behind sleeper is good for aero but should have other options. 2 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 On 9/2/2018 at 1:23 AM, Bullheaded said: Spotted this at a pit I am hauling out of in northern Ontario, Canada. I was kinda surprised to see an Anthem used for this application with wide base steers. This truck is owned by a gentleman who owns a fleet of Petes and KWs. Don't get to excited about Mack getting into this Paccar fleet. The son of the owner is an apprentice at a Mack dealer and convinced Dad to buy it. They still have Paccar products ordered and on the way. It's only a 14.6 and 46 spec. Mdrive blah blah. Lots of elecectrical issues with that one already. The owner of the fleet drives it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gicknordon Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 11:48 AM, Lmackattack said: im still not sold on them. even when they are "dressed up" they still look like a entry level plastic truck. The look of them are just not what I would want in a truck. the body lines are all wrong with the hood. it needs to be a little flatter on top and longer so that the engine is under the hood not the cab. the small hood with a engine stuffed under the cab just screams $$$$$ every time it needs a simple repair.The air tank set up is not pleasing to the eye. Stack location behind sleeper is good for aero but should have other options. Engine location is no different than on an "old" pinnacle. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxbxc Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 It's to bad, I think they look pretty good but MACK hasn't made a good truck since volvo took over hagerstown. And yes I know it was an epa green push that killed all the big V8's Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 41chevy Posted September 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2018 4 hours ago, gxbxc said: It's to bad, I think they look pretty good but MACK hasn't made a good truck sense volvo took over hagerstown. And yes I know it was an epa green push that killed all the big V8's Scania's current V8 meets U.S. EPA tier 4 Final and EU stage VI standards and makes from 520 to 720 plus h.p. the practical technology is here now. But apparently U.S. makers refuse it. 3 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Kevin posted a couple days ago that the Scania V8 would need a wide front frame like Macks used to use due to it's width. I looked up the V8's dimensions and I'm afraid he's right, and with inline 6s dominating the market here there's no incentive for truck makers to build a wider or drop front frame. So while you could probably fit a Scania V8 in a CL or the other chassis that hosted the Mack V8, It looks like the Scania V8 won't fit any current International chassis. Wonder if the tooling for the drop front frame section from the Transtar days is still around...? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 The Scania V8, in truck applications, is rated to 730hp. Imagine a next generation International cab and hood (ProStar/LT replacement) atop a (V8 compatible) Scania platform. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Given the open testing of Scania cabovers and VW light trucks here, I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if such a test "mule" is already on the road. Guess I'm gonna have to get familiar with Scania's chassis... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 11:38 AM, Bullheaded said: I think it looks better like that with the big steers and flat top than it does as a highway truck. I just wish they could find a designer than can come up with some better looking air intakes than those screen doors on the sides of the hood. At least those goofy mirrors can be deleted. Those big steers are just show. You can get up to s 16f axle on an Anthem. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 22 hours ago, Maxidyne said: Kevin posted a couple days ago that the Scania V8 would need a wide front frame like Macks used to use due to it's width. I looked up the V8's dimensions and I'm afraid he's right, and with inline 6s dominating the market here there's no incentive for truck makers to build a wider or drop front frame. So while you could probably fit a Scania V8 in a CL or the other chassis that hosted the Mack V8, It looks like the Scania V8 won't fit any current International chassis. Wonder if the tooling for the drop front frame section from the Transtar days is still around...? To bad Volvo-Mack does't offer the Cummins ISX15 , 400-600 horsepower with up to 2050 pound-feet torque. Any idea way Volvo-MACK won't offer it? Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 (edited) As stated above the pinnacle can be ordered with the Granite chassis. So why aren't there more heavy duty pinnacles and granites sold as tractors? Hmm let's put on our thinking caps. Why is Pete/KW-WS-Shaker kicking Mack's ass. NO BIG BORES ALLOWED IN THOSE SHORT HOODS PERHAPS !! Edited September 6, 2018 by james j neiweem 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 2 hours ago, james j neiweem said: As stated above the pinnacle can be ordered with the Granite chassis. So why aren't there more heavy duty pinnacles and granites sold as tractors? Hmm let's put on our thinking caps. Why is Pete/KW-WS-Shaker kicking Mack's ass. NO BIG BORES ALLOWED IN THOSE SHORT HOODS PERHAPS !! Price....price.....price......and the lack of a X15/DD15/DD16 competing powerplant. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS7 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 There are a lot of GU 813's pulling 8 axle MI gravel trains here in Michigan. I have seen a few new Anthem's with 7 axle MI tankers already. My 1998 CL 713 dump is setup for 145,000 GVW with a E7 460, it gets the job done and is good on fuel too. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bbigrig Posted September 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) The Granite frame could never be ordered on a Pinnacle as far as I knew. They are 2 different ratings and have different frame cross members etc. There were different sizes of rails available on the Pinnacle but the Granites offerings were much heavier. That is also the reason why to this day you can get heavier the a 16,000lb front axle on a Granite but can't order the same on a Pinnacle or Anthem. Up to last year you couls only order up to 14.6 front on Pinnacle. Please post up some proof that the rails are the same. Not just RBM ratings either. Many a customer here in Canada have been upset that they were forced to buy more expensive Granite tractors because the frame ratings and available axles on Pinnacles were to low. Edited September 9, 2018 by bbigrig 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54177-heavy-spec-anthem/#findComment-405750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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