Best definition of where we stand with Trump

[Red Horse]

Excellent IMO

 

This interesting piece was written by someone named Regie.  https://regiehammblog.wordpress.com/2018/08/22/trump-or-something-like-him/ .  

 

 

 

“Give me an asshole who can play …”

 

This is a famous quote from iconic drummer, Buddy Rich. Buddy only wanted the best on stage with him. He didn’t care about their “moral character” or if they were pleasant to be around. He didn’t even care if he, himself, liked them. He hired only guys who could burn the room down with him …not boy scouts who were mediocre. Hence, the famous quote.

 

President Donald Trump  appears  to be in trouble. A series of confessions and convictions, of and by people around him, are casting a strange, dark light on his presidency at the moment. There is a perception (at least) that shady stuff has gone on around this guy. And when shady stuff constantly goes on around someone in charge, you have to conclude that the guy in charge is okay with shady stuff.

 

Has he hung around tax evaders and money launderers? Clearly. Did he pay off porn stars and Playboy Playmates to keep their dalliances quiet? I think we can safely conclude that he did. Is he a petulant child in the Twitter-verse? One hundred percent. Does he say things in public my mother would slap me for saying? Literally, everyday. Did he conspire with a foreign power to win an election? Maybe. Will any of this make a difference to his supporters? That’s a complicated answer. Let me explain …

 

I have a theory that all presidential elections are reactions to the sitting president at the time. I’m old enough to remember Jimmy Carter getting elected (in large part) because he was a wholesome, moral breath of fresh air in an atmosphere of corruption and scandal created during the Nixon years. I was only a kid, but I distinctly remember entire churches being excited to go out and vote for an openly Christian man for president. Then, after four years of that disaster, I remember those same people breaking speed limit laws to get to the polls to vote for Reagan as fast as they could.

 

The conditions that created a “president Trump” kinda started with Bill Clinton, who led to George W Bush …who led to Barack Obama.

 

By the time we got to him, Mr Obama was going to be the antidote to incompetence and corruption and war mongering and, yes …even racism. But a very strange thing happened during Mr Obama’s presidency. Racism didn’t end. Corruption didn’t end. Wars didn’t end. And incompetence might’ve actually gotten worse. My full day of talking to the customer service agent at the newly created healthcare exchange, did NOT leave me confident.

 

And what was discovered during Mr Obama’s 8 years, was that in a free market nation, over-taxing, over-regulating and a leader who constantly berates the business community and supports policies that place more emphasis on celebrating the “diversity” of people groups than on law and order for every individual, and foreign policies that take everything but the nation you’ve been elected to lead into account, simply doesn’t work.

 

What was also exposed in those 8 years was how feckless and weak Republicans had actually become in their opposition to such things. And with candidates literally talking openly about socialism and nationalizing private institutions, a guy like Trump comes along and promises to re-set the foundation of the nation the way Americans understand it …and the way they want it. Is he really that much of a surprise?

 

I talk occasionally about the fourth revolution. And Donald Trump is the leader of it.

 

If you’re appalled at the lewd behavior of your president, you’re behind. That ship sailed when one was getting blow jobs by an intern half his age, in the Oval Office …AND. NOBODY. CARED.

 

If you wish your president was decent and measured and refused to return fire at his critics, you’re behind. We already had that guy and he was called a war criminal, who should be tried at the Hague (Rosie O’Donell’s public announcement) and “retarded” (Chris Rock’s word – DEFINITELY not mine), someone who should force his daughters to go to war (Matt Damon’s suggestion) a monster who deliberately broke the levies in New Orleans to drown black people (Spike Lee’s claim) and on and on and on …AND. NOBODY. CARED.

 

If you wish your president was upstanding and righteous and said all the right things, you’re behind. Mitt Romney already ran. AND. NOBODY. CARED.

 

If you wish your president was a humble and honorable true public servant, without moral blemishes, you’re behind. Bob Dole (a man who gave his right hand to his country) and John McCain (a man who gave both arms to his country) already ran. AND. NOBODY. CARED.

 

Donald Trump was the last branch to grab before the nation hit the ground. But he has changed the game in some ways. Nobody believes a nice guy can get it done, anymore. We’ve had nice guys …and nothing changed.

 

Cutting taxes and repatriating a trillion dollars was the right thing to do. And it’s working. And only a guy who doesn’t give crap about what people think of him could’ve gotten it done. Moving the American embassy in Israel to Jerusalem was the right thing to do. It sends a message to the rest of the middle east and, in turn, creates a stability hard to quantify. Presidents on BOTH sides of the aisle have promised to do it. It should’ve been done decades ago. But only a guy who doesn’t give a crap about what people think of him could’ve gotten it done.

 

Taking Kim Jong Un on …head on …is looking like it was the right thing to do. But only a guy who doesn’t give a crap about what people think of him would’ve even attempted it.

 

While Mr Trump’s lawyers and campaign people were perp-walking in and out of ivory towers, a teenaged girl in Iowa – as middle-America a place as you can find – was being murdered by someone in the country illegally. That creates real world fear for Americans everywhere. We have enough fear of our own citizenry, breaking our own laws. And reasonable Americans don’t think it’s UNreasonable to ask people wanting to come to our country …to sign the hell in. They don’t see how that makes them racists. It simply doesn’t compute. And the only elected leader giving them any cover is the flawed president.

 

So, did Donald Trump collude and conspire with Russians to win an election? What the media and his opponents (and even a lot of Republicans) STILL don’t or can’t or won’t understand is that it doesn’t matter. He didn’t have to collude with anybody. He was going to win either way. He had millions of Americans at “build a wall” and “cut your taxes” and especially at, “I don’t give a crap what people think.”

 

Donald Trump may get impeached or arrested or disgraced or unseated or whatever. But what people had better realize is that if he’s gone, a large percentage of the population will be looking for something or someone JUST like him …to replace him. There’s too much at stake; too many socialists on the horizon, too many empty suits looking for lifetime political gigs, too many “nice guys” with great smiles and weak spines, to take anymore chances.

 

We just want an asshole who can play. And with the economy roaring and North Korea neutralized and ISIS basically contained and defeated, it appears that despite all the weirdness that surrounds him, he can, indeed, play.

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[kscarbel2]

I don't know Bob.

I thought this one pegged its subject topic.........https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54073-this-pretty-well-sums-it-up/

But for example, he's all wrong on how to deal with the DPRK.

The masses of every nation pay little attention to national and global affairs because, for one thing, they know they are powerless to influence.

[1958 F.W.D.]

This. 

[HeavyGunner]

I think trump did exactly what we should with North Korea. We’ve been trying to deal with them diplomatically with kid gloves since the Korean War ended and it hasn’t worked. Every few years they act out with threat and aggression and we end up giving them food or some other supply and that quiets them for a bit. How many more missiles should we let them shoot over our allies and territories? That little fat man understands violence and needed “daddy” to put him in his place and say enough of this crap either playball or get your butt kicked. 

[david wild]

could not have said it better myself.

[41chevy]

1 hour ago, HeavyGunner said:

I think trump did exactly what we should with North Korea. We’ve been trying to deal with them diplomatically with kid gloves since the Korean War ended and it hasn’t worked. Every few years they act out with threat and aggression and we end up giving them food or some other supply and that quiets them for a bit. How many more missiles should we let them shoot over our allies and territories? That little fat man understands violence and needed “daddy” to put him in his place and say enough of this crap either playball or get your butt kicked. 

Force only understand force, Chamberland and Obama's "Peace in our time" Unicorn army worked well for us.

Being on the receiving and giving end in 2 wars, somebody in the press, a civilian or a 4 star, is IMO out of touch with the situation on the ground. But thats only my thought. Personally I will never turn the other check or cut and run from a bully or even a keyboard commando.

[Red Horse]

8 hours ago, kscarbel2 said:

I don't know Bob.

I thought this one pegged its subject topic.........https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54073-this-pretty-well-sums-it-up/

But for example, he's all wrong on how to deal with the DPRK.

The masses of every nation pay little attention to national and global affairs because, for one thing, they know they are powerless to influence.

Well Kevin I did agree with that article-but I don't think Trump has done anything that is significantly counter to that point.  IMO he sat face to face with him and basically said .."cut the BS". I think he is smart enough to know that there is no military solution that would not mean the immediate loss of life for thousands of South Koreans.  And I don't think he is in to regime change-to me it was more of..."if you think your people are starving now, only you can bring an end to that-by changing your behavior".

[kscarbel2]

The American government tells the masses who our adversaries are, and supported by the media, drills in the official view. Well, that view is generally far from the truth, and one-sided. In my opinion mind you, the US has handled the DPRK issue incorrectly for years. On reason they've run in a bad direction is because we continually rubbed their face in the dirt. If a father continually yells and shames his son, he will likely adapt to the environment, grow a thick skin, start snapping back and become a problem child.

[kscarbel2]

15 hours ago, 41chevy said:

Force only understand force, Chamberland [Chamberlain] and Obama's "Peace in our time" Unicorn army worked well for us.

Being on the receiving and giving end in 2 wars, somebody in the press, a civilian or a 4 star, is IMO out of touch with the situation on the ground. But thats only my thought. Personally I will never turn the other check or cut and run from a bully or even a keyboard commando.

With Chamberlain you're right. They could see the writing on the wall but were unwilling to stop/contain Hitler early on.

[HeavyGunner]

On 9/5/2018 at 6:16 AM, kscarbel2 said:

 If a father continually yells and shames his son, he will likely adapt to the environment, grow a thick skin, start snapping back and become a problem child.

I always enjoy your contributions to any conversation KS but blaming the US for North Korea being a horrible dictatorship is totally bunk. We responsible for all the other countries who also kill and starve their own for their own financial gain and well being?  Everyone has a choice to do right or wrong and yes environments can influence that but not dictate it. I have a close friend who was raised in an orphanage and then adopted by alcoholics and yet they decided not to be an alcoholic  or a criminal of any sort even though they weren’t  raised in the best environment. 

Edited September 6, 2018 by HeavyGunner
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