RoadwayR Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 New class 4/5, courtesy of their JV with GM: https://cumberland-companies.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/CV-SpecSheet-04.pdf Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 With that bulbous grille, it looks like the Cheshire cat from Alice in Wonderland. And suddenly the GM-Isuzu 6.6L Duramax is an International brand engine? To differentiate the NAV version from the GM unit, and take advantage of the VW relationship, I might have offered the 4.6L 4-cylinder MAN 0834 (150-220hp) or 4-cylinder Cummins ISB4.5 (150-210hp) as standard, with the 6.9L 6-cylinder MAN 0836 (250-350hp) as an option. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-408100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Agree it's ugly but with the dealer network as a big selling point, If I'm a class 6,7,8 operator and I need class 4 and 5 trucks, another reason for one stop shopping. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-408106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 looks like an ugly Chevy, and that's the problem... Customers will just cross shop it with Chevy and buy it from the dealer that gives the lowest price. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-408108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB DINGSDALE Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I think it's a little more distinctife than all the chev and dodge grilles.How many grills has dodge and chev need. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-408115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaican Bulldog Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Very odd to see a re-badged GM truck as an International especially since the history with Ford was not long ago. I still think Ford should still have offered a cab over class 4/5 after their divorce. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-408118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) Well it will fill the GMC void since they no longer seem to offer anything over a 3500 series so the Chevrolet sales don't suffer. Except for a snow plow blocking the nose, I like the one piece tilt nose in the Binder. Edited October 19, 2018 by 41chevy Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-408133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Gm authority blog is reporting a new 6.6l v8 gasoline engine for the 2020 silverado hd and sierra hd and also navistar is testing it for use in the cv series as well as chevy 4500-5500 . Around 400hp 450tq. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-408249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 6 hours ago, logtruckman said: Gm authority blog is reporting a new 6.6l v8 gasoline engine for the 2020 silverado hd and sierra hd and also navistar is testing it for use in the cv series as well as chevy 4500-5500 . Around 400hp 450tq. Assuming that does in fact happen, Ford better get their ass in gear and get that rumored 7+ liter V-8 done to replace the 6.8 V-10 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-408269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-445021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 When I went to my body builder last spring to pick up my new dump truck they had some CV's there. The owner says they and the the people that have bought them really like the CV. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-445058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadwayR Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 So far so good with our Silverado 6500's. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-445103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 53 minutes ago, RoadwayR said: So far so good with our Silverado 6500's. You have some RoadwayR? How do you like them? Anything you'd change about them? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-445107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Here's one took pics of at the body builder (Wiltsie) And a few bonus Mack's. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-445108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 If the cab was proportional in size to the hood, it would look better. And with a proper cab, the driver would sit higher, for better visibility over that hood. I wish the hood wasn't so bulbous. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-445112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 hours ago, kscarbel2 said: If the cab was proportional in size to the hood, it would look better. And with a proper cab, the driver would sit higher, for better visibility over that hood. I wish the hood wasn't so bulbous. Agree on the hood. I would think cab issue is a "non option"-that is where the economy of scale comes in. But the hood? Can't see why it has to be as "bulbous"-good word for it- as it is. How about it RR? Are there that many projections under that would preclude using a slimmer hood/fender design? Forget about appearance-just the savings in weight and improved visibility would I think justify a change. Remember when class 1-3 trucks had distinctive drop down fenders? Like 56 Fords and then the 57 came out and the hood was a square that extended out over the front wheels. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-445134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Truck makers should look at the past to design the future as many of the "classic" truck "looks" would still be popular today with the modern drivetrains, and ergonomics available nowadays. Seems to me Ford with the Mustang, Chrysler with the Challenger, and GM, somewhat with the Camaro have hit it off. Probably a good time for the truck makers to explore the same. 1 Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-445139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Yes, it is a bulbous hood. But sure beats lifting the cabs off my Superduties to work on them, LOL. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-445144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyGunner Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Bullheaded said: Yes, it is a bulbous hood. But sure beats lifting the cabs off my Superduties to work on them, LOL. I still can’t believe Ford did that. Quote The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by the people who vote for a living.The government can only "give" someone what they first take from another. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-445159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadwayR Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 13 hours ago, Bullheaded said: You have some RoadwayR? How do you like them? Anything you'd change about them? While I don't see these trucks as a direct competitor to the lighter M2's or MV's, they are more of a true medium duty than the F-450/550 and Ram 4500/5500. Light duty cab size and visibility is an issue compared to the M2 and MV.. Trucks seem well built, good turning radius, tilt hood a big advantage. Nice ride too. Upfitter says they are very easy to install bodies on. P.T.O. clearance a problem in some applications, but next year they will have the option of both right and left P.T.O. openings. Driver says only issue on ours (2 yard dumps) is the bed cab protector overhangs the sides of the cab and the running board is a little high, so you have to watch your head getting in! Only things I would change would be to offer a gas engine and 22.5" wheels as an option. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-445176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 66dc75 Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 14 hours ago, kscarbel2 said: If the cab was proportional in size to the hood, it would look better. And with a proper cab, the driver would sit higher, for better visibility over that hood. I wish the hood wasn't so bulbous. whats the problem with seeing over the hood, all I see around is 25 year old supertruckers with the air seat in their pete or kw long hood all the way to the floor and you see just the top of a head and and a hand reaching up to grab the extended ape hanger shift lever. 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-445214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, 66dc75 said: whats the problem with seeing over the hood, all I see around is 25 year old supertruckers with the air seat in their pete or kw long hood all the way to the floor and you see just the top of a head and and a hand reaching up to grab the extended ape hanger shift lever. Very good Rich-but you forgot the drop down visor for the ultimate cool look.😎 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-445220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadwayR Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, 66dc75 said: whats the problem with seeing over the hood, all I see around is 25 year old supertruckers with the air seat in their pete or kw long hood all the way to the floor and you see just the top of a head and and a hand reaching up to grab the extended ape hanger shift lever. Yeah, and a visor tilted all the way down so it's almost touching the wipers! I am old school, like to see where I am going, I guess. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-445221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Well.....I'm guilty of the visor. My old Paystar. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-445255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Bullheaded said: Well.....I'm guilty of the visor. My old Paystar. Honest man! But I would say not outrageous. I was on I-91 in Conn the other day and saw a Pete triaxle that had one that was curved downward to the windshield divider-my guess- 8" from the hood. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54585-international-cv-series/#findComment-445269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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