Front Turn Signal Location

[Red Horse]

Well along with B Mack's complaint on "bright lights",  my bitch is there should be a law that requires that front turn signals should be a certain distance from headlight locations.  Since "lolly pop" turn signals have fallen victim to "aerodynamics" and the move to integrate turn signals into the headlight bucket, I think the visibility and effectiveness of turn signals has suffered. 

Or maybe I'm just getting old👿

[41chevy]

40 minutes ago, Red Horse said:

Well along with B Mack's complaint on "bright lights",  my bitch is there should be a law that requires that front turn signals should be a certain distance from headlight locations.  Since "lolly pop" turn signals have fallen victim to "aerodynamics" and the move to integrate turn signals into the headlight bucket, I think the visibility and effectiveness of turn signals has suffered. 

Or maybe I'm just getting old👿

I find the lights are so bright that the directionals (when used) are lost to the headlights

[Ezrider]

i have noticed this as well. i have also noticed some automotive manufactures have noticed this as well you will notice a lot of cars the daytime running lamp will turn off on the side witch the turn signal is turned on. 

[Hobert62]

37 minutes ago, Ezrider said:

i have noticed this as well. i have also noticed some automotive manufactures have noticed this as well you will notice a lot of cars the daytime running lamp will turn off on the side witch the turn signal is turned on. 

My wife's dodge durango does this.  

[70mackMB]

7 hours ago, Red Horse said:

Well along with B Mack's complaint on "bright lights",  my bitch is there should be a law that requires that front turn signals should be a certain distance from headlight locations.  Since "lolly pop" turn signals have fallen victim to "aerodynamics" and the move to integrate turn signals into the headlight bucket, I think the visibility and effectiveness of turn signals has suffered. 

 

6 hours ago, 41chevy said:

I find the lights are so bright that the directionals (when used) are lost to the headlights

Not only the front turn signals but many of the rear ones get lost in the tail/brake lights also. And where have the side turn signals gone on the larger trucks? Macks are the size of your thumb, Peterbilt and Kenworth are only two or three small LEDs, Volvos are no better, all recessed flush with the fender or "A" pillar. You can not even see them working looking at them on a sunny day. Some cars have more larger and brighter ones than trucks do! l find now when you do use a signal it's one of two things. The other driver ignores it or it's F@#& HIM he's not getting in front of me!!! Damn trucks!                            l've vented, Thank you.   .....Hippy 

[Red Horse]

9 hours ago, Ezrider said:

i have noticed this as well. i have also noticed some automotive manufactures have noticed this as well you will notice a lot of cars the daytime running lamp will turn off on the side witch the turn signal is turned on. 

Yes I was going to comment on that as well.  Speaks volumes doesn't it that they know its an issue and some have done something about it. But apparently they don't view it as a problem when headlight switch is on!

And agree with everyones comments on the "side" lights. Hidden and smallenough to be useless-in particular in winter when trucks are covered in road grime.

 The Ford dealer here in Mass who sells the most 650/750's in New England always ordered fender mounted turn signals as an option.  Since they came out with the new hood like two years ago I guess that is no longer an option as all their new trucks no longer have them

[41chevy]

Funny this came up. I was coming up on a Hartt tanker unit this morning on the Maine Pike and rear signals and brakes lights had a small strobe flash in them to get your attention.

Think alot of the lighting issues is to make the unit aero enough to meet the CARB and Fed requirements.

Edited November 4, 2018 by 41chevy

[Red Horse]

1 hour ago, 41chevy said:

Funny this came up. I was coming up on a Hartt tanker unit this morning on the Maine Pike and rear signals and brakes lights had a small strobe flash in them to get your attention.

Think alot of the lighting issues is to make the unit aero enough to meet the CARB and Fed requirements.

No doubt with respect to the fender mounted turn signals-oh and air horns under the front fender.  Must be worth at least ,0032 mpg😎.  And remember when some guys would tie a silk stocking in front of their horns to keep snow out?  No problem with them under the fender in the winter-outa site, outa mind!

[41chevy]

Never did the stocking thing but had stand off covers on a few and even had made a little deflector to push snow and rain up and off to the sides.

I really think the truck designers are the same people who design the blob cars of today. Designers used to be practical and have a  knowledge of what is practical and needed. Now the worry about the cup holders, power ports and Ergonomics of the touch screen.

[RowdyRebel]

...and a truck with fender-mounted blinkers is less likely to drive down the road unknowingly signalling a lane change or turn, because you can SEE the blinky light on your fender clear as day.

Then again, does it really matter if people can see a car's blinker if the person driving it never uses it?  Sometimes I wonder if they quit teaching that in driver's ed...nobody uses theirs, and everybody ignores yours when you use it.

 

[BOB DINGSDALE]

I like some of the FRIEGHTLINERS around here .they come as standard equp with the turn signals out on the mirrors where you can see they front and back

[mackey58]

Naaaa where not getting old ya just can't fix stupid .juts like common courtesy doesn't exist with 90 % of the new drivers just my opinion 

[MHfred]

I thought turn signals must be optional on newer vehicles since they are not used very much.  HA   I really hate it when I am sitting to wait for a vehicle to pass an intersection and the sucker  makes a turn on the road I am sitting.  ERRRR!

 

[Freightrain]

If you check, typical European regulations say the car has to have amber rear turn signals.  Thus many of the newer cars have them(so they are compliant), but like mentioned, you can't see them due to the insane brightness of the LED tail lights surrounding them.   I find myself pulling up to a stoplight and having to shield my eyes behind many of the newer cars.  The brake lights will burn your retina!   They think this is safer?  Likely, but when idiots aren't looking up from their phone, they still aren't going to see them!!

 

Yes, most chevy's and likely Mopars have LED daytime running lights that are so bright they have to turn them off so you can see the turn signal.  WTF?  When will it ever end?  I grew up with a love to drive.  Couldn't wait to get my license.  Today I literally don't care if I get into the drivers seat anymore.

[other dog]

On 11/18/2018 at 7:23 PM, mackey58 said:

Naaaa where not getting old ya just can't fix stupid .juts like common courtesy doesn't exist with 90 % of the new drivers just my opinion 

Very true.

[other dog]

On 11/19/2018 at 10:00 AM, MHfred said:

I thought turn signals must be optional on newer vehicles since they are not used very much.  HA   I really hate it when I am sitting to wait for a vehicle to pass an intersection and the sucker  makes a turn on the road I am sitting.  ERRRR!

 

yes!

[other dog]

On 11/19/2018 at 11:22 AM, Freightrain said:

If you check, typical European regulations say the car has to have amber rear turn signals.  Thus many of the newer cars have them(so they are compliant), but like mentioned, you can't see them due to the insane brightness of the LED tail lights surrounding them.   I find myself pulling up to a stoplight and having to shield my eyes behind many of the newer cars.  The brake lights will burn your retina!   They think this is safer?  Likely, but when idiots aren't looking up from their phone, they still aren't going to see them!!

 

Yes, most chevy's and likely Mopars have LED daytime running lights that are so bright they have to turn them off so you can see the turn signal.  WTF?  When will it ever end?  I grew up with a love to drive.  Couldn't wait to get my license.  Today I literally don't care if I get into the drivers seat anymore.

Kind of the same way I feel about driving a truck anymore.