alex g Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I'm wanting to change my steer axle on my 88 R model to Hub Pilot. I called local parts dealer Traction and they say it won't convert. I then called local Mack dealer and they told me same thing. I'm hoping someone has had some luck with this and would appreciate any input before I give up hope. My front hubs are 89032-R Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54746-trying-to-convert-r-model-to-hub-pilot/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
880joe Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I know a guy that converted a 66 R model to hub pilot. If nobody on here has better answer I can get ahold of him and see where he got his parts at for you Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54746-trying-to-convert-r-model-to-hub-pilot/#findComment-408957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
br549 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 google gunite, it will take you to accuride and go to KIC hub assy and put in your cup numbers in your old hub and you can see if it will convert. Post your VIN or model and last six of VIN if nothing has been changed and I will see what I can find. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54746-trying-to-convert-r-model-to-hub-pilot/#findComment-408958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ws721 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Try Global truck here in N.H.603 239 7008. They have a kit to sell to do what your looking for 2 Quote Remember if it's got a hood it's no good! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54746-trying-to-convert-r-model-to-hub-pilot/#findComment-408961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 put hub pilot hubs from a '93 CH VIN # CH613-020817 onto a '87 R688 VIN # R688- 018238 . 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54746-trying-to-convert-r-model-to-hub-pilot/#findComment-408968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m16ty Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I guess I have to ask why? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54746-trying-to-convert-r-model-to-hub-pilot/#findComment-408994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, m16ty said: I guess I have to ask why? Much better selection of chrome nut covers. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54746-trying-to-convert-r-model-to-hub-pilot/#findComment-409003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex g Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 23 hours ago, ws721 said: Try Global truck here in N.H.603 239 7008. They have a kit to sell to do what your looking for I called Global talked to Don he was extremely helpful. He said they don't ship to Canada but was good enough to give me parts numbers I needed. Steer axle hubs are 10082201 Conmet brand. I was able to order them from local parts place along with drums and shoes. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54746-trying-to-convert-r-model-to-hub-pilot/#findComment-409031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex g Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 16 hours ago, m16ty said: I guess I have to ask why? Old style stud pilot parts are harder to come by and more expensive here. Stud pilot drums are $500 hub pilot are $150 for extra cost to change hubs it pays for itself in long run. Also my old rims are approx 30 years old I can upgrade those as well for safety reasons. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54746-trying-to-convert-r-model-to-hub-pilot/#findComment-409032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickfarms Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Old style stud pilot parts are harder to come by and more expensive here. Stud pilot drums are $500 hub pilot are $150 for extra cost to change hubs it pays for itself in long run. Also my old rims are approx 30 years old I can upgrade those as well for safety reasons.You are not kidding about the front drums.I priced some front stud pilot drums and they were about 5 bills, ended up finding a set of nice used ones Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54746-trying-to-convert-r-model-to-hub-pilot/#findComment-409037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex g Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 23 hours ago, Superdog said: put hub pilot hubs from a '93 CH VIN # CH613-020817 onto a '87 R688 VIN # R688- 018238 . Thanks for the info Superdog I'm gonna order new for front and see if I happen to find a used set at wreckers later. Around here it's not easy to find any at wreckers unless you happen to be there and find them yourself. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54746-trying-to-convert-r-model-to-hub-pilot/#findComment-409038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex g Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 Just now, alex g said: Thanks for the info Superdog I'm gonna order new for front and see if I happen to find a used set at wreckers later. Around here it's not easy to find any at wreckers unless you happen to be there and find them yourself. A used set for my drives I mean. I'd eventually like to do complete truck. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54746-trying-to-convert-r-model-to-hub-pilot/#findComment-409039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54746-trying-to-convert-r-model-to-hub-pilot/#findComment-409040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 On 11/7/2018 at 4:01 AM, alex g said: Old style stud pilot parts are harder to come by and more expensive here. Stud pilot drums are $500 hub pilot are $150 for extra cost to change hubs it pays for itself in long run. Also my old rims are approx 30 years old I can upgrade those as well for safety reasons. I was getting bad mileage out of my steer tyres. Would be flat out getting 80,000kms from them and that was pushing it. Rotated them every time I serviced it. I replaced the rims and straight away I’m up to 120,000km. I’d be interested to see if you get better wear with the new rims. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54746-trying-to-convert-r-model-to-hub-pilot/#findComment-409463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeH Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I asked Andy and Rich at Associated Truck Parts in Warminster, PA about swapping to bud hubs earlier this year. They told me just get them inner and outer wheel bearing numbers and theyll look up which hub it gets. Made it sound like it was easy as cake. All our trucks are spoke hubs. One man brake jobs are a nightmare. Buds you don't have to pull the hub, brake drum goes on the wheel studs. We only run a 15-20 mile radius from our shop, (concrete delivery company) so we never have to do a roadside tire swap, and we plan brake jobs when we're both around to slide the hub off on the car jack. I used our harbor freight trans jack last time, it worked surprisingly well. Could be an alternative to swapping hubs. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/54746-trying-to-convert-r-model-to-hub-pilot/#findComment-411118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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