john negoshian Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 does anyone know the difference between mack camel back 44000 suspension and 46000 suspension is it in the springs also front axle 18000 dule steering box and 20000 front axle im pretty sure the front axle is just spring nothing else but dont know about the difference on the rears any help would be great it is a2010 gu800 thanks astroman Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55154-mack-suspension/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 A 44000 diff housing is usually Cast ! 36/38 are usually fabricated steel! depending on the year! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55154-mack-suspension/#findComment-412176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
john negoshian Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 yah no rookie here mack only buys 2 front axles for a rd or granite one is for 10-12 14000lbs the other is 16-18-20000lbs the cert is by spring ,steering box, brakes ,tires, for rears i am not sure what the difference is on 44s and 46s camel back there both bronze , i know 38s and 44s is hardened dont know if its springs i doubt its brakes or bearings or axles any knowledge would be greatfull thanks jn. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55154-mack-suspension/#findComment-412203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 It can get more complicated than that... Several years back I researched upgrading from the 12k# front axle on an MR. Turned out the next rating up, 12.6k# IIRC, looked the same but had a more thorough heat treating. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55154-mack-suspension/#findComment-412212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog2 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2- half's welded together witch crack44.0000 and one piece housing 46.0000 . Quote Ed Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55154-mack-suspension/#findComment-412218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 There's also setup with a torque rod from the RR carrier housing to the right frame rail (like airrides have) on Camelback suspensions starting from sertain raiting. Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55154-mack-suspension/#findComment-412299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m16ty Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I've got a set of 65K rears under my truck. Never really have paid much attention to the details of it. The axles are physically bigger than the smaller ones, the trunnion mount is massive with lots of bracing, and it's on walking beams. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55154-mack-suspension/#findComment-412777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kt_Engineer Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 12/30/2018 at 11:26 AM, john negoshian said: does anyone know the difference between mack camel back 44000 suspension and 46000 suspension is it in the springs also front axle 18000 dule steering box and 20000 front axle im pretty sure the front axle is just spring nothing else but dont know about the difference on the rears any help would be great it is a2010 gu800 thanks astroman 44,000 is also a Mack fab. steel axle - 44k GAWR with camelback suspension gets 11mm wall thickness while with Air Suspension (HAS/AL) will get a 14mm housing.Recently Mack Engineering approved 11mm @ 46k GAWR for camelback and 14mm @ 46k GAWR for Air suspension. If you have newer version of the housings (post - 2006/2007) then you can use at higher rating. On 1/8/2019 at 10:28 PM, m16ty said: I've got a set of 65K rears under my truck. Never really have paid much attention to the details of it. The axles are physically bigger than the smaller ones, the trunnion mount is massive with lots of bracing, and it's on walking beams. You have a Cast ductile axle housing @ 65K GAWR with CRD95/96 carrier. This has been in production since 1945. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55154-mack-suspension/#findComment-413251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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