kscarbel2 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Western Star Trucks Press Release / January 16, 2019 Andy Johnson, Brand Manager for Western Star, explains the many new enhancements made to the WS 4700. . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55338-ws-4700-enhancements/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Impressive IMO. Just have to wonder -with more wiring then ever, connected through stalks with all kinds of plastic switch controls, with all kinds of duplicated points, what will these trucks be like 3 yrs down the road? And it doesn't matter the brand-they all have it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55338-ws-4700-enhancements/#findComment-413851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 The Volvo design Mack brand wiring harnesses are a nightmare for all from coast-to-coast. And pity the customer whose truck is down needing a replacement.....time to rent a truck for a while. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55338-ws-4700-enhancements/#findComment-413856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 There is NOTHING Western Star or Detroit can ever do to make me want another. I realize they aren't all bad, but mine is such a lemon It made it so I can't even stand looking at a W Star. The Detroit has been solid as far as hard parts (except for the fan belt tensioners) but it is an emission system nightmare. Whereas the ISX Cummins has had a lot of hard part failures but not nearly as many regens and shut downs as this DD15. This is just my opinion. I see many in long haul applications that are trouble free, but my Star was built with so many flaws I can't even list them all here. And that DD15 don't like in-town dump truck work in any weather, let alone when it is minus 10 to 20°F Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55338-ws-4700-enhancements/#findComment-413897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Looks like they raided the Benz parts bins for those Dash & control stalks Bits & pieces.. I'm pleasantly surprised at the X12 being standard fitment. would've put money on the 11litre Benz OM470 being rebranded a DD11 & fitted.. Hope We get it down here. A 450-500Hp X12 version with that 40'" sleeper would sell well in my opinion.. 1 Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55338-ws-4700-enhancements/#findComment-413909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55338-ws-4700-enhancements/#findComment-413999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 . . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55338-ws-4700-enhancements/#findComment-414228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/22/2019 at 9:36 PM, Bullheaded said: There is NOTHING Western Star or Detroit can ever do to make me want another. I realize they aren't all bad, but mine is such a lemon It made it so I can't even stand looking at a W Star. The Detroit has been solid as far as hard parts (except for the fan belt tensioners) but it is an emission system nightmare. Whereas the ISX Cummins has had a lot of hard part failures but not nearly as many regens and shut downs as this DD15. This is just my opinion. I see many in long haul applications that are trouble free, but my Star was built with so many flaws I can't even list them all here. And that DD15 don't like in-town dump truck work in any weather, let alone when it is minus 10 to 20°F In my opinion if you're going to by a new unit, you need to check out where your best service is going to be! Because your going to need it! Very seldom do the new units run trouble free for a year! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55338-ws-4700-enhancements/#findComment-414245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Well I'm kinda amazed now. They had to put a whole new harness in for the SCR system and I have just ran 3 twelve hour shifts in MINUS 45°F weather and it is still running!!!!! Only one parked regen in those 3 days. It's a miracle!! I still hate it though. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55338-ws-4700-enhancements/#findComment-414322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 Trucks Planet / March 8, 2019 Daimler AG subsidiary Western Star Trucks has presented an updated version of their 4700 Series truck, the most popular product in the brand's line-up. First introduced in 2011, the 4700 in 6x4 configuration has a GVW from 24 tonnes and are available as a rigid and tractor. This year the trucks got major technical improvement. The newest 11.9-liter Cummins X12 turbodiesel has the power range from 350 to 500 hp, and the torque from 1700 to 2300 Nm. Old engines are still available: 9.0-liter Cummins L9 and a 13.0-liter Detroit DD13. The advantage of the Cummins X12 is its lightweight design, which increases the load capacity and economic efficiency of the trucks. Another important innovation of the 4700 is the new automated Detroit DT12 gearbox. It has a hill climb assistance function and a clutch control system. The new gearbox provides a smoother ride. With this upgrade the Western Star 4700 Series has got new high-comfort mattress, a lane keeping function and an automatic braking system. . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55338-ws-4700-enhancements/#findComment-418043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55338-ws-4700-enhancements/#findComment-418069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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