kscarbel2 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Ford Trucks International / January 28, 2019 In Romania, Ford Trucks is proudly handing CNAIR the keys to 103 new Ford trucks! We're looking forward to working together! #SharingTheLoad . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadwayR Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Otosan will probably go after the Venezuelan market next. Of course they will have to lend them money to buy the trucks.......... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 If Romania can get a Ford truck with tandem axles, why can't we? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 Sharp looking trucks! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 7 hours ago, RoadwayR said: Otosan will probably go after the Venezuelan market next. Of course they will have to lend them money to buy the trucks.......... No they can get that same model I believe from Brazil. And as for the money? No problem-Maduro will put it on his Cuba-Visa card-if he isn't living in Cuba before long! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, Red Horse said: No they can get that same model I believe from Brazil. And as for the money? No problem-Maduro will put it on his Cuba-Visa card-if he isn't living in Cuba before long! No, the 3542D is exclusively a Ford-Otosan model Bob. http://www.fordtrucks.com.gh/Content/Resources/Vehicle/3542D.pdf https://www.fordcaminhoes.com.br/content/ford-brazil-trucks/pt-br/cargo.html Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS7 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 That cab over truck would be use less with the size plows that are used here. All most all new DOT class 8 plow trucks I see here in MI are axle forward. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 As long as the front axle assembly has the capacity to handle a plow, no problem. MN DOT had some tandem MR dump trucks with plows assigned to the Minneapolis-St.Paul metro area, I suspect the better visibility was an advantage in the cities. Following similar logic, NYC has informed the truck makers that it wants better visibility in it's future truck purchases and they may switch to cabovers. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 hours ago, TS7 said: That cab over truck would be use less with the size plows that are used here. All most all new DOT class 8 plow trucks I see here in MI are axle forward. COEs perform splendidly in the snow removal application. . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Back around 2007 when the U.S. Postal Service was damn near giving away their used MR tandem tractors with the Allison autos I was tempted to build something like those Scanias- Stretch the frame in back and add a steerable tag axle to up the legal GVW from 46K to 54K pounds, would have made a great dump/plow truck for urban applications. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 10:57 PM, kscarbel2 said: No, the 3542D is exclusively a Ford-Otosan model Bob. http://www.fordtrucks.com.gh/Content/Resources/Vehicle/3542D.pdf https://www.fordcaminhoes.com.br/content/ford-brazil-trucks/pt-br/cargo.html OK Kevin thx- I was thinking of the 3133-but I see clearly a different animal. In any case, I think many of those Brazilian Cargos would do well here to compete with the Chevy-badged Isuzus. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 19 hours ago, Maxidyne said: As long as the front axle assembly has the capacity to handle a plow, no problem. MN DOT had some tandem MR dump trucks with plows assigned to the Minneapolis-St.Paul metro area, I suspect the better visibility was an advantage in the cities. Following similar logic, NYC has informed the truck makers that it wants better visibility in it's future truck purchases and they may switch to cabovers. Agree-IMO front axle rating is key. Other factor though would be just how do you mount the head gear on a cabover? it is one thing to have lift up access panels on a fiberglass hood-quite another to accommodate a heavy system that can handle say a 10+ ft reversible plow and still be able to tilt the cab. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 19 hours ago, Maxidyne said: As long as the front axle assembly has the capacity to handle a plow, no problem. MN DOT had some tandem MR dump trucks with plows assigned to the Minneapolis-St.Paul metro area, I suspect the better visibility was an advantage in the cities. Following similar logic, NYC has informed the truck makers that it wants better visibility in it's future truck purchases and they may switch to cabovers. NYC is following London on visibility requirements. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
augsterformula Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Maxidyne, you mean like this? Mack MR triaxle dump truck. 73,280 GVR. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS7 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Kscarbel I did not say a COE could not handle a plow, I said that most trucks I see are axle forward. That COE is not set up like DOT trucks I see here. It has no under body scraper or spreader body. I think a axle forward truck can carry a heavy plow and a heavy loaded spreader body better. A Mack MR makes a great city plow truck , but I do not think it would be good highway plow - spreader truck. I do not know how to set up a truck for plowing, but I think a over loaded front axle can make a truck hard to handle at speed. A truck that left a yard loaded with salt or sand will drive good with the plow up or down. But if plowing and spreading as many do, when un loaded and plow up going back for more salt, I would want a truck that is not hard too handle. May be some BMT member who drive large DOT trucks will comment on this. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 I hear you. Plows are becoming obsolete except for heavy snowfall areas like Scandinavia. Rotary brooms have become the global standard in Western Europe and Northern China. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, kscarbel2 said: Any clue what that box like structure is hanging off front end? Impressive shop in that first picture. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS7 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 The plow on the Romanian Ford looks like it is made from some type of plastic. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 9 hours ago, Red Horse said: Any clue what that box like structure is hanging off front end? Impressive shop in that first picture. Bob, if I remember correctly, that covers the hitch while the plow is removed for the summer months. It's functional from a safety standpoint, and aesthetically appealing. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 18 hours ago, TS7 said: Kscarbel I did not say a COE could not handle a plow, I said that most trucks I see are axle forward. That COE is not set up like DOT trucks I see here. It has no under body scraper or spreader body. I think a axle forward truck can carry a heavy plow and a heavy loaded spreader body better. A Mack MR makes a great city plow truck , but I do not think it would be good highway plow - spreader truck. I do not know how to set up a truck for plowing, but I think a over loaded front axle can make a truck hard to handle at speed. A truck that left a yard loaded with salt or sand will drive good with the plow up or down. But if plowing and spreading as many do, when un loaded and plow up going back for more salt, I would want a truck that is not hard too handle. May be some BMT member who drive large DOT trucks will comment on this. . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS7 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 No broom's? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, TS7 said: No broom's? . . . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS7 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) Kscarbel I think large brooms are used on runways to clean pavement bare after plowing because they cannot use salt. A broom is not very good on hard packed snow, runways do not have that issue. The only way to clear hardpacked snow to bare pavement is a steel edge plow. You need down force on hardpacked snow. We plow a large parking lot with a Cat 950G loader with a 16' pusher box. The rubber edge needs to be adjusted about every 10-12 hours of use. Its takes more than one pass to clean the pavement bare. I think a heavy steel edge plow or underbody scraper are the best way clear a road fast. I used to work for a road builder that was on call for a county road commission and ran a Cat 12G grader with a 14' blade, cleared a lot side roads after a heavy snow with that. Edited January 31, 2019 by TS7 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 29 minutes ago, TS7 said: Kscarbel I think large brooms are used on runways to clean pavement bare after plowing because they cannot use salt. A broom is not very good on hard packed snow, runways do not have that issue. The only way to clear hardpacked snow to bare pavement is a steel edge plow. You need down force on hardpacked snow. We plow a large parking lot with a Cat 950G loader with a 16' pusher box. The rubber edge needs to be adjusted about every 10-12 hours of use. Its takes more than one pass to clean the pavement bare. I think a heavy steel edge plow or underbody scraper are the best way clear a road fast. I used to work for a road builder that was on call for a county road commission and ran a Cat 12G grader with a 14' blade, cleared a lot side roads after a heavy snow with that. I hear you. The great thing about brooms is they are far less destructive, and more forgiving. And obviously, snow-type rotary brooms clear the road surface more completely of snow and ice. . . . . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55433-romania-is-plowing-snow-with-ford-trucks/#findComment-414563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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