Popular Post Red Horse Posted March 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2019 4 hours ago, TS7 said: I would like to see 41 get free posting like I think KSC has, he finds and posts some great photo's of old trucks, I am sure he puts a lot time into this. Not to forget Mr. Hancock does too. Red Horse would you want to drive that Gulf tanker? I do not remember how and when they were out lawed, but it started in lower MI. The oil companies said we would run of gas with out those tanker's to fill gas stations. Most stations could not take a full load any way. They would need more trucks and of course the price of gas would go way up. They got by. I do not know the laws on tankers, but those are gone. They were not safe. TS- No thank you-above my paygrade or skills. When I did drive, it was 7600 gallons on five axles. Of course that goes back in days when we had spokes, and tanks had two meters, two direct lines, two 4" hoses and in a 3" Blackmer pump on some tractors. My region was not in the "weight savings at any cost" mindset. In fact I remember one of the old fleet maintenance supervisors who had a saying..."aluminum is only good for teakettles". Later in my career I was the regional staff guy responsible for fleet and we were still not that weight conscious. Rest of the country was into Alcoas and we were still on spokes! Big change came here I think when an R-700 pulling a Fruehauf bath tub dump, probably grossing over 100,000 lost control on a road under spans leading to Tobin Bridge. Knocked bridge pier out and this major span over Boston harbor was shut down. As a result of that Mass started big crack down on overweight trucks but also passed legislation raising 5 axle limit to 99,000 lbs while eliminating requirement to comply with Fed bridge formula. Picture is what we then used- 11,800 gallons, no bridge formula, trailer tandems were 50,000 pds and the LT 9000's had 40 rears and 12 fronts. But the first time you drove one of these you knew center of gravity was VERY different. Later on rest of New England followed suit but required triaxle tanks. All that is except Conn. They are still at 80,000-and bridge formula. Maybe my imagination but I think this may have led the push to bigger trailers-and with more axles vs. combinations as used in Michigan. 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/56412-crackerbox-super-dump/page/2/#findComment-419362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadwayR Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 12 hours ago, Red Horse said: TS7 ....Here you go Early Astro judging by mirrors Early Astro 95 for sure. Coach mirrors, probably a Cummins judging by the single stack and air cleaner on the right. Heavy front axle with 6 spoke wheels. Nice tractor, but what a mess behind it. Never saw anything like that in California! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/56412-crackerbox-super-dump/page/2/#findComment-419367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swishy Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Many many moons ago I wrote a letter to all the yanky truck makers for info etc GMC sent me 2of 6x8 fotos n here they B 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/56412-crackerbox-super-dump/page/2/#findComment-419370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS7 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 The 8 axle trains ( dump and fuel ) in the photo's do not need lift axles to steer or turn, but 4-8 axle straight trailers need lift axles to turn and steer. There have been lift axles here for as long as I can remember. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/56412-crackerbox-super-dump/page/2/#findComment-419372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck P Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) The pic in the original post and Swishy's pics all show the V8-powered crackerboxes. You can make out the V8 Diesel logo on the access flap. Edited March 30, 2019 by Chuck P Quote "If it's all the sime to you... I'll droyve that tankah" Max Rockatansky (The Road Warrior) Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/56412-crackerbox-super-dump/page/2/#findComment-419388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck P Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) Color pic when new from the interweb. Edited March 30, 2019 by Chuck P 1 Quote "If it's all the sime to you... I'll droyve that tankah" Max Rockatansky (The Road Warrior) Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/56412-crackerbox-super-dump/page/2/#findComment-419405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Swishy Posted April 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2019 Lota tyre to air up Super-sized What then was said to be the largest tank semi-trailer ever built for highway service was operating in Michigan 45 years ago. The 17,000-gallon Super Tanker gasoline transporter featured 11 axles, with three capable of lifting for better maneuverability. The tanker, powered by an International tractor, boasted the maximum length (55 feet), height (13½ feet), weight (152,000 pounds) and axles (11) allowed at the time, and cost $75,000. cya 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/56412-crackerbox-super-dump/page/2/#findComment-419774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 On 4/3/2019 at 9:34 PM, Swishy said: Lota tyre to air up Super-sized What then was said to be the largest tank semi-trailer ever built for highway service was operating in Michigan 45 years ago. The 17,000-gallon Super Tanker gasoline transporter featured 11 axles, with three capable of lifting for better maneuverability. The tanker, powered by an International tractor, boasted the maximum length (55 feet), height (13½ feet), weight (152,000 pounds) and axles (11) allowed at the time, and cost $75,000. cya Wow-best case with five axles on that tank on the ground, happy was the guy that sold the owner springs and hangers! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/56412-crackerbox-super-dump/page/2/#findComment-419880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadwayR Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Looks like one of those Transtar 4090's with the 12V-71. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/56412-crackerbox-super-dump/page/2/#findComment-419896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck P Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 On 4/5/2019 at 3:56 AM, RoadwayR said: Looks like one of those Transtar 4090's with the 12V-71. I was thinking the same thing. Extra bar in the grille and step under door means V12 power inside. Quote "If it's all the sime to you... I'll droyve that tankah" Max Rockatansky (The Road Warrior) Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/56412-crackerbox-super-dump/page/2/#findComment-420057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ws721 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 On 4/3/2019 at 9:34 PM, Swishy said: Lota tyre to air up Super-sized What then was said to be the largest tank semi-trailer ever built for highway service was operating in Michigan 45 years ago. The 17,000-gallon Super Tanker gasoline transporter featured 11 axles, with three capable of lifting for better maneuverability. The tanker, powered by an International tractor, boasted the maximum length (55 feet), height (13½ feet), weight (152,000 pounds) and axles (11) allowed at the time, and cost $75,000. cya Wonder how many times the driver caught his foot on the rubber guard over the steer tire Quote Remember if it's got a hood it's no good! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/56412-crackerbox-super-dump/page/2/#findComment-420147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Cool tread thanks all first truck I ever drove was a cracker box 16 years old didn’t take it on the road just drove around the yard great memories...bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/56412-crackerbox-super-dump/page/2/#findComment-420564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oso2 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) FYI, here's how we do it in neighbouring Canada. This 5-axle super-B set is good for 138-140,000lbs gross (depending what province you're in). I've never driven one, but I've spoken with guys who say that the track quite well and are easier to drive than a 53' trailer (going forward that is!) There are other configurations, but this is the most popular. And yeah, there are a lot of 13L Macks and Volvos pulling them. Edited April 19, 2019 by Oso2 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/56412-crackerbox-super-dump/page/2/#findComment-420895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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