kscarbel2 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Scania Group Press Release / June 17, 2019 Thanks to some detective work and help from reliable Scania enthusiasts, we managed to track down the owner of the very first Scania V8 to roll off the production line. “I have always had a passion for new technology – now I’m driving electric,” says Henrik Olsson, now 81 years old. In the late 1960s, Henrik Olsson needed a replacement for the Scania LS76 that his transport company was using for timber haulage in the forests of Värmland in western Sweden. The contract for a new Scania had already been signed when, one Sunday, the salesman called again. “He said he’d heard a rumour about the release of a completely new model, a V8,” recalls Olsson, “and wondered if I’d be interested in becoming the first person to buy an LBT140.” Need for extra power That didn’t require much thought. Of course he was keen on the extra power: 350 hp compared with the 260 of the LS76. “We really needed that to handle the steep, slippery dirt roads. The LBT140 provided a sense of security. You knew you’d manage the hills without any problem.” Initially however, the new truck was not completely hassle-free. The engine was so powerful that the drive shaft broke a couple of times. “But on those occasions, the service was outstanding,” says Olsson. “That’s one of the reasons we stuck with Scania – plus the fact that the truck was good, of course.” “I’d love to start over again so I could drive electric trucks.” Having run his company for 20 years, Olsson sold the business, becoming an official for the Värmland province hauliers’ association. Now retired, he maintains a passion for vehicles. awaiting the delivery of the latest model. “I’ve always been interested in new technology, so of course I was curious. Driving an electric vehicle is a great feeling; the car reacts instantly, feels powerful and is completely quiet. I’d love to start over again as a driver so I could drive electric trucks.” So what happened to the first Scania V8? After four years and 600,000 problem-free kilometres, it was replaced. Its ultimate fate is unknown. . 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/57735-he-bought-the-first-scania-v8/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Must have been about the same time frame as the E9. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/57735-he-bought-the-first-scania-v8/#findComment-425664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 13 hours ago, james j neiweem said: Must have been about the same time frame as the E9. The first Scania V8 was an ENDT865/866 with individual cylinder heads. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/57735-he-bought-the-first-scania-v8/#findComment-425724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Are you saying that the first Scania V8 was a Mack engine? Interesting. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/57735-he-bought-the-first-scania-v8/#findComment-425755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, james j neiweem said: Are you saying that the first Scania V8 was a Mack engine? Interesting. Yes, born from Mack’s long time relationship with Scania, and the old man’s idea to gain economy of scale via such an agreement. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/57735-he-bought-the-first-scania-v8/#findComment-425756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 8 hours ago, james j neiweem said: Are you saying that the first Scania V8 was a Mack engine? Interesting. https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34624-mack-–-scania-cooperation/ 1 Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/57735-he-bought-the-first-scania-v8/#findComment-425811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaican Bulldog Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 9:30 PM, kscarbel2 said: The first Scania V8 was an ENDT865/866 with individual cylinder heads. Why did the Scania versions of the Mack V8s have individual heads? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/57735-he-bought-the-first-scania-v8/#findComment-425815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Jamaican Bulldog said: Why did the Scania versions of the Mack V8s have individual heads? Because that was the norm in Europe at the time, owing to it's advantages. Scania's feeling to this day is that individual cylinder heads have several advantages. A cylinder head covering more than one cylinder imposes restrictions on the maximum potential for achieving efficient intake and exhaust flow, because provisions for cooling and clamping compromise cylinder head design. Since individual cylinder heads don't suffer from these obstacles, the head design can be optimized for rapid gas flow to achieve maximum fuel efficiency. And regarding maintenance, it's much cheaper and faster to remove and reinstall an individual cylinder head, than a single cylinder head covering two to six cylinders. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/57735-he-bought-the-first-scania-v8/#findComment-425832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Pretty much all larger diesels such as marine propulsion and electric power production have individual cylinder heads. GE, EMD, Pielstick, Suzler, Cat, Janmar, Waukashaw, Cooper Bessemer etc. FM opposed piston engines were an exception as they had no heads. Scania followed this design in their V8. As KS states it is easier to fine tune an individual cylinder as opposed to a group of cylinders hooked up to multi ported intake and exhaust manifolds. KS also noted the maintenance advantages. Scania was wise to follow this design into the smaller engine design. I believe Scania also uses this design in some of their six cylinder designs. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/57735-he-bought-the-first-scania-v8/#findComment-425848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) And it's cheaper to make one head to fit all configurations of motors whether its a 1, 2, 3, 4, or what ever the case maybe This single head per cylinder was pretty common in Europe on trucks tractors and just about any type of diesel engine Paul Edited June 21, 2019 by mrsmackpaul 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/57735-he-bought-the-first-scania-v8/#findComment-425868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaican Bulldog Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Excellent and educational explanations on the single head per cylinder. Is there any reason the American manufacturers didn't adopt this style for its advantages? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/57735-he-bought-the-first-scania-v8/#findComment-425898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) At a guess I would think it's more expensive to manufacture as on a V8 you have 8 heads to machine as opposed to two or 4 on a E9 So at least twice the setup for machining and twice as many heads to machine Paul Edited June 22, 2019 by mrsmackpaul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/57735-he-bought-the-first-scania-v8/#findComment-425900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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