Mystic oil

[david wild]

Mystic makes a 20/50 oil for diesel engines, would that not help with summer heat, I know here in GA. it has been plenty hot and I was thinking that 20/50 might work good in the hot weather ??????????  

[david wild]

Now I guess it's 15/50,  ???

[Mack Technician]

The rule I was taught is take the recommended viscosity and go one grade skinny in the hardest months of winter and one grade fatter for the middle of summer. Recommended viscosity for the nice days of the year.  

 

I've been noticing OE's keep dropping viscosities. Modern oil is good enough to do it.

 

[Vladislav]

They drop viscosities to reduce fuel consumption.

Might have economical reasons but my personal preference is a longer service life of an engine.

[david wild]

We tend to work our engines a little harder and I know it's hot out, I would think the 15/50 would work better in the summer, as for fuel consumption, I could care less at this point, the work is more than covering lowered mileage, when the loser liberals take over I'll worry about MPG and then retire. 61 now, so if trump can get reelected I'll be good to go.  right now we are having to much fun to quit, so push on.

[JoeH]

Radiator is keeping the engine to 180*. Even if it's 100 out that's still much cooler than the engine and oil temp. Personally I'd just stick to 15w40. Just keep your pyro from getting too hot.

[david wild]

AH but in the winter my oil temp stays down, when in a rural area both water and oil stay down, come up a little on the road with big pulls, oil is cheaper than a overhaul, so a little expense  for better oil is a good investment,  FYI  we gross just under 500k with a single truck,  and that's runing from SLC to Houston, so it's not like flat ground all the way, south of Moab has some pulls and coming out of Farmington NM has a real good pull, Found Lucas oil treatment does wonders in the rears, no more oil boiling out the breather, hard to get a real answer on engine oils, I know we don't run Rotella in old engines, looks like water and the engines clatter,  I don't think that's good, been using Lucas Magnum oil in the older engines,  by older engines I mean anything before 2000.  

[JoeH]

You left 500k out of the first post! That's a fair amount of weight. I'd still stick with the 15w40 for most of the year. Pulling those weights I'd invest in a bigger oil cooler, not a different oil. Oils break down when they get too hot. For winter time I'd consider finding a way to insulate the oil pan if you have trouble getting the oil to temp.  That's my basic recommendation, temperature regulation. But I don't heavy haul, I just run straight trucks at 73,280.

[david wild]

We are happy with the way the oils operate now but like the 4 H, make the best better, we look to new products that might work better and my intent was to get feedback from anyone who might have used the the 15/50 oils, if not then we try it on our own, nice to learn from mistakes, best if not your own. over the years we have learned a lot of things that don't seem like much till you ad them up and understand how much better we operate from those lessons, some would think that super heavy would get new tires, when due to speed limitations we don't heat up tires but scrub them off, a set of drives will barley get 20k before replacement, engine size is great for loads going fast, at 20 mph you would never guess at what you really need,  a 460 mack will climb a hill at the same  speed as a larger engine if operated at the same speeds before the climb, another words at the top the hill the mack will be close behind, we have run big engines and smaller engines and with the right gearing they all arive at same time ??  We now scour the sales for the right used equipment, rebuilding old equipment now makes more sence than ever, you can rebuild and it will run, something new trucks won't do, If a sensor of some sort goes out in buttplug NM or someplace else what do you do, not like you can just drop your trailer and run off to the nearest dealer ???  the trucking industry was forced to implement using sytems that were not even invented till mandated, using that train of thought then next year all cars should run on water, the tech does not exist so invent, that is what the trucking industry did. you who have bought new trucks have paid the price, I think we will continue to rebuild the old stuff till we run out of equipment to buy and that won't happen in my lifetime, after that i'll be dead and won't care, and no the kid is not interested, say's we work to hard, thank you liberal shit terds at college for brainwashing the younger people into thinking that WORK is a bad four letter word.  

[Mack Technician]

Your right about Rotella.

It gets a lot of credit by vendors, but we proved it to be inferior to Mobil Delvac (AKA- Mack OE Bulldog Oil). When Mack did the P2 bearing recall we were rolling in new shells all day. We only sold 2 kinds of oil at the dealership. Guys who came in regularly for Rotella services had considerably more orange peel displacement than Mobil Delvac 1300 users. None were “failed bearings”, but it was evidence of less film strength. 

I’d do 15W-50 in mid-summer. Your not going to see any negative payback. 

[JoeH]

Just gotta make those kids pay for their own college of they want to go. But even that may not fly any longer if one of these dumbocrats gets into office and pays off all college debt. Wtf? MAPA! 

[david wild]

Last line was what I was hoping for. Thanks 

[david wild]

Don't get me started on the piss poor Democrat party, that thing from MN. with the snot rag on her head, or the walking cesspool from NY. that's what they got to offer, condem the US but give no better ideas. Heard Biden at the debate about wanting to bring honesty back to Washington, that moron must live in lala land, he is the poster child for corruption. 8 years O shit for brains kept telling us that those jobs are gone and will never come back, there back what happened ?? TRUMP. Government is a bussiness and we need bussiness people running it not some sleaze bag political piglet, keep hearing Trump is not good at diplomatic crap, really ? what zombie land butt wipe could think that, he's done more good for the US oversaes than anybody and he does not get on his knees and (you know) like our past loser not born here racist leader.  Smoke that liberal losers.   MAPA Make America Poor Again, Vote Democrat                                       Boy I feel better already

[JoeH]

They're gonna get trainwrecked by the voters this next election. They're doing a lot of posturing, they really are out of touch.  As a 29 year old who started working after high school I'm excited to be working in a booming economy for the first time in my career. MAGA!

[JoeH]

My only worry is what does 2024 look like? Republicans don't have a leg to stand on without Trump.  Most legit business men who would make great president's won't run because they want to be business men not politicians! Trump has done everything he's wanted to do in life, now he wants to MAGA and he's doing a hell of a job. No Republican could stand in the ring as long as he has without being knocked down once.

[david wild]

There are some new blood coming up, let's hope they can carry on and finally destroy the liberal agenda and keep us on the right track,  promise of a free lunch costs somebody, there is no free.