Mack R-410X Dump Truck

[j hancock]

Chrysler 413 power under the hood with plenty of room to spare.  The 413 was called EN414A by Mack and the R-410 was produced between 1965-1970 with 450 units produced.

[HeavyGunner]

Any idea what kind of torque and hp those engines put out?  

[Prowrench]

Looks like a big block MoPar 🧐 with a lousville bumper I wonder is this factory?

[Prowrench]

sure is different

[blackdog2]

There was a contractor in Conn. that had several they look like 318 Chrysler with automatics . Jullian 

[JoeH]

That hood cracks me up. It's fiberglass, but is set up with the foldup sides you see on steel hoods.  You flip those sides up and the motor is 4 feet down below the hood! Lol that hood is useless like that.

[JoeH]

Yes the engine is factory, no idea about the bumper.

[j hancock]

7 hours ago, HeavyGunner said:

Any idea what kind of torque and hp those engines put out?  

210 HP and 372 on torque.

 

7 hours ago, Prowrench said:

Looks like a big block MoPar 🧐 with a lousville bumper I wonder is this factory?

Mopar engine legit in a Mack R410.  Front bumper, not so much.

[tjc transport]

1 hour ago, JoeH said:

That hood cracks me up. It's fiberglass, but is set up with the foldup sides you see on steel hoods.  You flip those sides up and the motor is 4 feet down below the hood! Lol that hood is useless like that.

my bet is at one time in it's life it wore a snow plow out front and the doors were cut in the hood because it would not flip open with the plow on to check oil or other fluids. 

[JoeH]

With that motor in that truck I doubt it could handle a 7.5 foot plow.  But it's possible, no holes for plow lights on the fenders because the engine can't handle anything bigger than a pickup truck plow which would ride below the factory headlights anyways, or would have its own light bar. That'd make a decent yard truck for someone that just needs to putt putt around moving dirt on their acreage. That's what we use our U685T for. Run it like once every 5 years for projects on our property. It's days plowing snow are long gone unless I replace the whole cab and redo all the airlines brakes and tires and hydraulics.

Edited August 19, 2019 by JoeH

[RoadwayR]

Neat truck, I always thought the R-410's were a preview of what Mack would have been like under Chrysler ownership!

The 413's were among the best truck gas V-8's.  Very much different than the passenger car-light truck 383's, 400's, and 440's. 

Wasn't there a R-400 very early on that had a Magnadyne flathead 6 in it?

Edited August 20, 2019 by RoadwayR

[TS7]

Dodge Truck built and sold a lot of C-800 single axle dumps and tractors with the 413's for power. There were a lot of C-800 plow trucks around the Detroit area.

[j hancock]

30 minutes ago, RoadwayR said:

Wasn't there a R-400 very early on that had a Magnadyne flathead 6 in it?

That would have been an R-402 with a flathead.  Offered between 1966-1968 with 219 built.

The Dog would have been a real dog!

[KKERGALL]

Hood and bumper not original. Later model hood with openings not sure what bumper is from. Town of Newington, CT had several of these. 

[j hancock]

The hood might be OEM to the truck. 

It was cut with a jigsaw by Bucky the Beaver and is a little rough vs what a factory fiberglass hood with correct molded access panels for snow plow duty.

7 minutes ago, KKERGALL said:

Hood and bumper not original. Later model hood with openings not sure what bumper is from. Town of Newington, CT had several of these. 

 

[Maddog13407]

413 was an animal in those R400's. we had a few R402's with the junk 401 an duplexes and one R410SX, baby 18 speed double over quad and 44 rears and was told that it would run like its ass was on fire, could outrun a B61 or the T800 Ford we had with a 534 gas. was no match for a 549 International tho. this was the late 60's when gas was still cheap

[Red Horse]

On 8/19/2019 at 10:37 PM, Maddog13407 said:

413 was an animal in those R400's. we had a few R402's with the junk 401 an duplexes and one R410SX, baby 18 speed double over quad and 44 rears and was told that it would run like its ass was on fire, could outrun a B61 or the T800 Ford we had with a 534 gas. was no match for a 549 International tho. this was the late 60's when gas was still cheap

If your Ford was a T-800 it was not a 534.  

[mowerman]

I saw a guy tuning one up Oakland ca Mack dealer around 35 years ago pretty cool...Bob


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[Maddog13407]

477 I think actually? 

 

[Red Horse]

21 hours ago, Maddog13407 said:

477 I think actually? 

 

Matt-If T-800 not a Super Duty (401, 477,534)  If it was a 477 would have been a T-850 or T-950-and 477's were not known as being dogs.   Depending on year I think a T-800 would have been a 391-which would explain why it was a dog compared to say a 549.

[Maddog13407]

was def a 477, tandem tractor, red with white headliner and white steering wheel and dash insert, 5 and a 3, was not a slouch I been told but the 549 V200's we had would walk them all if you could keep them together.

[RoadwayR]

I drove a Fleetstar once that had a 537 V-8 in it, sort of an improved 549 I guess.  Truck had a 5X4 in it, geared really short.  I wasn't the best at driving a 5X4, but I could make it pull pretty hard.  

Don't know what the issues were, but I remember hearing the big International V-8's were not the most reliable big gassers.

The company I work for had a bunch of 534 Fords back in the day.  Last one I remember seeing was a 70-something LT-900.  I never got a chance to drive it, but never heard anything bad about it.  I know by then the 534's didn't make a whole lot of power due to emissions, which was why they were dropped a couple of years after the Lima 429 came out.  The 429's were great, only problems I ever saw with those were the cams going flat and the oil pump pickups falling off.  Even that wasn't much of an issue if the driver shut it off quick enough.

Outside of the 413/EN414, my favorite big gassers were the GMC 401 and 478 V-6's.  That 702 V-12 must have really been a monster.  

Always wanted to drive a REO V-8, heard they were pretty good.

 

 

Edited August 31, 2019 by RoadwayR

[Maxidyne]

I lived near some gravel pits in the 60s so remember seeing a lot of those gas powered tandem dumps. The V8s made some melodious music, but they weren't all that fast, as most has only mid 200s horsepower. Short lived too, as by the 70s they'd been mostly replaced by diesels which went faster with less drama.

[james j neiweem]

Loved the sounds of those GMc V6's

[mowerman]

I did drive a 1960 REO gas job trash truck way back in 75 It hadda 4 and 3 transmission...bob


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