united we stand

[Prowrench]

UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL! Think about what that means. Now what is happening to us? Right against left republican against democrat, conservative against liberal white against black christian against gay pro-life against pro choice and on and on. While we that is to say ALL of us here in America are taking sides, pointing fingers, assigning blame the power hungry politicians from both parties are cheating us, robbing us and trying to destroy our beloved nation for their own interests. The sooner everyone of us realize that and start holding politicians accountable the better we will all be. The roads, bridges, sewers, water mains, electrical grids natural gas pipe lines are rapidly deteriorating from decades of neglect and no matter what side you are on those items are a vital part of your life yet I do not hear any politician recognizing this much less talking about updating these systems. If we allow the politicians to continue distracting us we will be living in a third world country, and being what you are and what side you are on will no longer have any importance when your very existence will consume all of your time and energy.

[Mack Technician]

Now I feel pressured to say something nice about Liberals.......  here we go. 

Liberals are fun at parties because they don’t like to fight when they drink, they’d be more likely to run to Canada instead.  

[Prowrench]

1 minute ago, Mack Technician said:

Now I feel pressured to say something nice about Liberals.......  here we go. 

Liberals are fun at parties because they don’t like to fight when they drink, they’d be more likely to run to Canada instead.  

LOL but it's them against us regardless of who they are or who we are and the bad politicians know this. I think Julius Ceaser is credited with stating "DIVIDE AND CONQUER" In the grand scheme of things the arguments that are going on today are petty in comparison to what is really important in the vital functions of our great nation. I realize that each side is passionate about their cause and i would expect us all to be so but I believe America as a whole has become to involved in  rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic while it is sinking and certainly will vanish beneath the waves and yet WE on both sides are doing little if nothing to plug the leak or pump the water out.

[david wild]

There is neither right or left, it is right or wrong, open borders and making working people pay for  health care for people who broke the law to come here is wrong, are we to be the only country on earth with no border protection, I got arrested and deported out of the Ukraine, I waited for my paperwork (visa) to be corrected in Kuwait, I had to have a visa to go to Ghana,  why then is travel into this country to be any different ????  I got no problem with drugs but when you OD you die, why should I the tax paper pay to fix your drug problem, you smoke, you die, drive like a idiot you die too. I believe it self control and taking care of my family not every one else's,  want Government to run health care ? they do, it's called the VA  and it's a horror show , what makes you think they care can take care of you and me, they can't care of some vets.  you believe we should pay the blacks for being in slavery, how about making those who sold them into slavery pay (Blacks) you think the climate is really changed by man, how many ice ages did we go through before man even existed, who caused that ??? get real, the modern day liberal democrat is not only wrong but a danger to this country, yes it's not perfect but there is no place better, so why make like the rest of the sh t hole places.  TRUMP 2020 

[david wild]

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[tjc transport]

i like to say it: united we stand, divided the democrats win.

[david wild]

I stand for what is right for America, I support our Vets, I support giving help to those that really need it, not some lazy slob, and I support those that came here legally and your right to defend your home with a gun of choice but a 12 gauge is better in close combat than a AR, most of the civilian AR owners never saw action and it's just a cool thing, In Iraq the AKs worked better in the sand anyway.   

[CaptainCrutch]

Politics benefits from divisions, people are more likely to donate when they have been trained to hate the “other side”, it makes people more passionate, and it’s been proven that people have gotten farther from the center politically, and with everyone having an agenda they want to push you have to be extremely careful in trusting what you read, the bias has infiltrated everything. Everyone is benefiting from this division except for the regular joe who has nothing to gain in the long run except hatred for someone over something as simple as buying chicken from a specific restaurant... we’ve gotten so bad when it comes to arguing that I can’t go get Chic-fil-a Milkshakes without being criticized for it. Families torn apart, friendships broken, two people who would otherwise be good friends result to calling eachother enemy robots over the smallest political points. Both parties just change to be whatever the other party doesn’t support, both taking opposite stances, and insisting their stance is the best. In reality both parties are interested only in benefiting themselves and they’re doing it at our expense. But what do I know, I’m just some guy on the internet who wrenches on some old firetrucks.

[glitchwrks]

"I want what's best for everyone!"

"Then why do you drive in the wedge of division?"

[mrsmackpaul]

On 9/19/2019 at 3:30 PM, david wild said:

yes it's not perfect but there is no place better,

You obviously are so wrong here MATE

AUSTRALIA is the greatest  country 

But been that you are obviously a American and not a Australian I cant expect you to know or understand 😉👍👍👍👍

seeya

Paul 

[david wild]

Well I like Australia too, but you do drive on the wrong side of road.

[CaptainCrutch]

But their trains don’t require tracks, and that is quite impressive, one of the things from Australia I wish we had here in the states, not mention it would be a good excuse to bring back the Titan...

[41chevy]

On 9/19/2019 at 6:38 PM, david wild said:

I stand for what is right for America, I support our Vets, I support giving help to those that really need it, not some lazy slob, and I support those that came here legally and your right to defend your home with a gun of choice but a 12 gauge is better in close combat than a AR, most of the civilian AR owners never saw action and it's just a cool thing, In Iraq the AKs worked better in the sand anyway.   

And just think today one of the Dimwits stated that the biggest thread to the USA after "assault rifles" is Combat Veterans. According to her we are home grown terrorists.  Gee I must be one of the worst, I'm a wounded combat vet, in the NRA and a gun owner. By the way my home defense choice is a Heritage Arms 410/ 45 long Colt revolver loaded with OO buck.

AK's worked better in nam also

[ranchhopper]

One thing no one has mentioned the biggest promoters of the division of our country is the  liberal news media. They lie daily by omitting key facts of news stories to slant them to their liberal views. One cant blame one whole sector of people for their views when the liberal news media spoon feeds them the line of crap daily they are promoting. I think places like CNN and MSNBC should have their FCC licenses pulled not because their views differ from mine but because they have turned into propaganda mills turning out one sided views and like I stated before they are masters of lying by omission of key facts in news stories.

 

[Mack Technician]

19 hours ago, 41chevy said:

And just think today one of the Dimwits stated that the biggest thread to the USA after "assault rifles" is Combat Veterans. According to her we are home grown terrorists.  Gee I must be one of the worst, I'm a wounded combat vet, in the NRA and a gun owner. By the way my home defense choice is a Heritage Arms 410/ 45 long Colt revolver loaded with OO buck.

AK's worked better in nam also

I was just looking at one of those the other day and wondering how you can legally build a shotgun with a 2” barrel? Must be a loophole because of the 45 interchange?

[tjc transport]

19 minutes ago, Mack Technician said:

I was just looking at one of those the other day and wondering how you can legally build a shotgun with a 2” barrel? Must be a loophole because of the 45 interchange?

technicality. it is a pistol, that just happens to be able to accept a 410 shotgun cartridge. 

[Hayseed]

8 hours ago, ranchhopper said:

One thing no one has mentioned the biggest promoters of the division of our country is the  liberal news media. They lie daily by omitting key facts of news stories to slant them to their liberal views. One cant blame one whole sector of people for their views when the liberal news media spoon feeds them the line of crap daily they are promoting. I think places like CNN and MSNBC should have their FCC licenses pulled not because their views differ from mine but because they have turned into propaganda mills turning out one sided views and like I stated before they are masters of lying by omission of key facts in news stories.

 

^^^^^^^ I agree with This  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

Once upon a Time, News Organizations reported the   Facts   & nothing but the facts.

You could then form your own opinion based on the facts,, .....................Today their far too busy promoting their Owners Point of View.

[Mack Technician]

29 minutes ago, tjc transport said:

technicality. it is a pistol, that just happens to be able to accept a 410 shotgun cartridge. 

I checked into it. They could slap federal charges on you for putting a shotgun shell in it. The loop hole is the rifled barrel makes it a single projectile firearm. So now I need one and if the perp who’s breaking in gets BB pelted I hand the boys their red riders. Buckshot = HPslingshots 

[david wild]

Now we are all bad, saying the AKs better than our finicky overpriced home grown assault weapon, bring back the Thompson, that was a real gun. 

[kscarbel2]

31 minutes ago, david wild said:

Now we are all bad, saying the AKs better than our finicky overpriced home grown assault weapon, bring back the Thompson, that was a real gun. 

It speaks volumes that the FBI still keeps Thompsons in their arsenal, a weapon invented in 1918.

[41chevy]

4 hours ago, Mack Technician said:

I was just looking at one of those the other day and wondering how you can legally build a shotgun with a 2” barrel? Must be a loophole because of the 45 interchange?

Taurus Judge # 2441061T   Cylinder will take 410 3" and 45 Long Colt  6 1/2 barrel fibre optic sights.

Carry piece is my Calico 9mm or my dress up carry Glock 17 

[41chevy]

1 hour ago, david wild said:

Now we are all bad, saying the AKs better than our finicky overpriced home grown assault weapon, bring back the Thompson, that was a real gun. 

Some we had were pre M16A1 versions which had ejection issues and severe barrel wear with the stocks made by Mattel,  real confidence builder. Finally bartered for an M14

[Prowrench]

well just so everyone understands I lean very far to the right  and I agree with the comments made here especially the one stating it's not  about democrat or republican rather about right and wrong. how do we know the left is wrong? well for more than 50 years their programs have failed miserably. because only common sense would dictate that mutilating ones body (transgender, transsexual) come from mental illness being gay or lesbian or bisexual should be a persons private business and not taught in schools HELL schools shouldn't teach any sexuality that's the responsibility of parents. we also know that the left is wrong because they are hypocrites,liars, and don't apply logic, common sense, or science to their views and when confronted with logic ,common sense and science they resort to personal attacks.      One of the biggest problems we face is that the left infiltrated the school system and many people never learned how to think for themselves which is why they follow the media that doesn't report facts but distorts and omits them and interjects opinion as if that was news and facts. We must all take an active part in the education of our kids and grand kids teach them what every dictator has done on their rise to power and the kids will see that the media has become the propaganda arm of the left and gun control is not for safety but   when the politicians seize our guns they will next kick in our doors and seize our real property as easily as they now do with our paychecks. college students don't know how our government works and even less about history and that is how the left is gaining control PLEASE teach your kids and grand kids not only what Hitler did in the death camps but all of the policies of the Nazi party and what other dictators have done in the name of safety and security which ultimately and intentionally had the opposite effect

[41chevy]

5 minutes ago, Prowrench said:

well just so everyone understands I lean very far to the right  and I agree with the comments made here especially the one stating it's not  about democrat or republican rather about right and wrong. how do we know the left is wrong? well for more than 50 years their programs have failed miserably. because only common sense would dictate that mutilating ones body (transgender, transsexual) come from mental illness being gay or lesbian or bisexual should be a persons private business and not taught in schools HELL schools shouldn't teach any sexuality that's the responsibility of parents. we also know that the left is wrong because they are hypocrites,liars, and don't apply logic, common sense, or science to their views and when confronted with logic ,common sense and science they resort to personal attacks.      One of the biggest problems we face is that the left infiltrated the school system and many people never learned how to think for themselves which is why they follow the media that doesn't report facts but distorts and omits them and interjects opinion as if that was news and facts. We must all take an active part in the education of our kids and grand kids teach them what every dictator has done on their rise to power and the kids will see that the media has become the propaganda arm of the left and gun control is not for safety but   when the politicians seize our guns they will next kick in our doors and seize our real property as easily as they now do with our paychecks. college students don't know how our government works and even less about history and that is how the left is gaining control PLEASE teach your kids and grand kids not only what Hitler did in the death camps but all of the policies of the Nazi party and what other dictators have done in the name of safety and security which ultimately and intentionally had the opposite effect

Read this article about what one mans opinion what the political system did to schools.

https://www.gunpowdermagazine.com/parkland-father-dem-policies-not-guns-killed-my-daughter/

[Prowrench]

13 minutes ago, 41chevy said:

Read this article about what one mans opinion what the political system did to schools.

https://www.gunpowdermagazine.com/parkland-father-dem-policies-not-guns-killed-my-daughter/

Interesting article. I always cringe when i hear about gun control because everyone knows it does not work only law abiding citizens obey the law. In Chicago there is a new State attorney (district attorney in other states) Democrat, black female received campaign money from George Soros she refuses to prosecute property crimes valued at less than $250.00 doesn't ask for bail or only a low bail for people picked up on gun charges that have already been convicted of felonies. This is why there is always more than 2 dozen shootings in Chicago every weekend . The Mayor of Chicago a black female lesbian helped create a state law requiring schools to teach LGBTQ history she claims all of the gun violence is due to young men not knowing how to settle disputes. If she believes that then instead of LGBTQ history why don't she create a law to teach conflict resolution? But what place do I have stating any of that being that I'm a middle age middle class white christian  conservative heterosexual male AKA the problem.