More BS

[david wild]

Someone is or they would not continue with this stupidity

[david wild]

To Keith S the IRS did persecute conservatives,  guns did go across the border then were used to murder a border agent, Hillary did give away the our uranium for her benefit plus made sure 4 good men died because she had her head up her ass, Obama drew a line in the sand  and then moved it ten times, he also paid Iran hostage money then lied about it and under Obama ISIS was born due to his being incompetent, and under Obama the 16 election was hacked by the Russians or someone, that's right, that happened while Obama was watching the store not Trump, OH and the unemployment rate was going to stay high and just get use to it, and those manufacturing jobs were gone and never to come back and we will kill coal to help the environment when it was to kill the price of coal so third world baboon farmers could have cheap electric power and we got stuffed and the environment got screwed, yes sir Obama and his crowd did great things.

[theakerstwo]

On 10/31/2019 at 8:19 AM, terry said:

41chevy, not trying to hyjack the thread, but don't you think that whole Viet Nam thing was a  fiasco? take the ground and then give it up, and all those young G.I. lost for nothing. I turned 21 there in "69".    terry

Blood for money

[j hancock]

Which US President hasn't used quid pro quo?

[Mack Technician]

2 hours ago, Keith S said:

What concerns me is not what you're saying, it's that you believe it.

• "Same money-spoiled children of privilege blew $25,000,000.00 taxpayer dollars on that unfounded Mueller investigation to play politics”

Elaboration please, what part of that isn’t believable Keith?

I fact checked again, it’s now estimated those horses @?$’s spent between $32-$35 million of our tax dollars on an unfounded investigation...... Believe it. 

[tjc transport]

2 hours ago, david wild said:

Someone is or they would not continue with this stupidity

yea, but the people believing them also believe in the tooth fairy, easter bunny, bernie sanders, and the clintons are innocent. 😆

[tjc transport]

2 hours ago, david wild said:

To Keith S the IRS did persecute conservatives,  guns did go across the border then were used to murder a border agent, Hillary did give away the our uranium for her benefit plus made sure 4 good men died because she had her head up her ass, Obama drew a line in the sand  and then moved it ten times, he also paid Iran hostage money then lied about it and under Obama ISIS was born due to his being incompetent, and under Obama the 16 election was hacked by the Russians or someone, that's right, that happened while Obama was watching the store not Trump, OH and the unemployment rate was going to stay high and just get use to it, and those manufacturing jobs were gone and never to come back and we will kill coal to help the environment when it was to kill the price of coal so third world baboon farmers could have cheap electric power and we got stuffed and the environment got screwed, yes sir Obama and his crowd did great things.

don't forget the health insurance debacle  "you need to vote it in effect to see what is in it"

Edited November 2, 2019 by tjc transport

[Keith S]

If you want to have a real discussion, that's great. If you simply want to puke out the opinions of Right-wing millionaires, I'm not interested.

So, if you want to have a discussion, I suggest we:

1. Use a list
   1. A numbered list makes it easy to reply to a specific item
   2. A list requires organizing a person's thoughts
   3. Short lists are easier focus on specific views - a rifle vs. a shotgun.
      1. Limit your list to a few items - four is probably the most. It seems like more than that take a lot of time
2. Use more than words - "A picture is worth a thousand words".
   1. Words are okay if you want to quote facts: Example:
      1. "Mexico will pay for the wall"
      2. "I won't have time for twitter"
      3. "I won't have time for golf"
      4. "Now, I have to tell you, it's an unbelievably complex subject. Nobody knew health care could be so complicated. Who knew healthcare would be complicated?"
   2. While pictures can be edited, some are too real to be fake:
      1.    "I never did that"

    These are my thoughts on a discussion. I'm not interested in a pissing contest.

[Maxidyne]

Good points. And while I generally stay out of politics here, if folks wanna talk about politicians, please quit obsessing over candidates who haven't run in years and hold no public office.

[j hancock]

My .02 worth is the economy is doing pretty well with low unemployment, Trump needs to stay off twitter and people need to enter this country legally.

[tjc transport]

i still say trump uses twitter as a laser pointer, and the demoncrats are his cats.

 

[david wild]

OK I'll take your bait, since I work a lot in Mexico because we have freight going to and coming from there which includes us going into Mexico because of the size and our knowledge at running the trailers,  not every joker can run a dollie system, ask Emmert,  I think that Mexico is helping to pay for part of the wall, we never saw the Mexican Military in force like we do now, which in effect is slowing the illegal border crossings which is saving us money which is allowing us to pay for the wall and not chase illegals ? (thinking like Government person)  Twitter ? who cares ? really that's a problem ?  golf ?  yep when the Democrats spend more time working with Trump to help Americans he won't have time for golf till then since they are only concerned with their witch hunt he has time so why not play golf, and for anybody that has worked with vets and the disabled there are those who wear their disability like a beacon of feel bad for me, but MOST do not, nor ask for sympathy, they ask for respect and to be treated as the equals they are, MOST do not see them selves as disabled, they know they are but they ignore it / deal with it and press on, it's only a select few that go on the feel bad for me tour. Now maybe you should also read the truth behind your bringing up the reporter with the disability which was a birth defect in this case, Trump flails around and the person in question does not, most what you saw on TV was as usual not the truth, so check your facts before putting it out there like it's the gospel, and as tjc transport noted I also suspect that Trump uses Twitter to infuriate the left wing loons, he probably laughs so hard he falls off the couch when he writes his lines of wit, i know I do.  And yes maybe Trump was not up to speed on how bad Obama screwed up our health care system,  since Obama and crew lied about it from day one how could Trump know how screwed we had gotten,  Remember if you like your plan keep it, like you doctor no problem and best of all your rates won't go up, mine went from $560 per month for me and my wife to over $2000 per month and neither of us have health issues WTF, go smoke another joint and try again.    

[HeavyGunner]

Don’t forget this nugget. 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/11/10/aca-architect-the-stupidity-of-the-american-voter-led-us-to-hide-obamacares-tax-hikes-and-subsidies-from-the-public/#d4de5297c05d

I also like Keith’s comment about “rich right wing millionaires”, so pelosi, sanders, Hillary and the rest of them aren’t rich as well?  Love how hypocritical democrats are.  They yell buzz phrases like equal wages, wealth redistribution while having a death grip on their wallets as they fly on their private jets to one of their many mansions.  

Edited November 4, 2019 by HeavyGunner

[mowerman]

dont forget they expect the rest of us to feed the poor and illegals....sorry couldnt hold back this time......they just dont seem to want to share thier wealth..but i guess,thats what you were trying to get across.....bob...

[Mack Technician]

And now for a civil discourse.....ahem...here’s my retort and the list system we now have to use........?

point 1

Keith, they wouldn't allow you to be hall monitor in school (for a reason) any more than we need conversation police on Odds and Ends. Please go back to bossing around your wife.

 

Point 2

Trumps antics can’t be defended, don’t ask people to try. 

 

Point 3

Politicians are suppose to manually raise money for a campaign then secure an office. After that it’s time to go to work. They’re not doing it. They get money for the campaign, win, then steal our tax dollars fighting in office to screw over rivals while they are suppose to be working. They literally have millions of tax dollars, they didn’t acquire through campaigning, to work out their campaign on “company time”. It’s BS. It’s happening on both sides. Right now the Dems are perfecting the technique of screwing away my money to campaign for 2020 while in office. Any guesses how much work won’t get done and how much money they’ll blow on the next impeachment debacle? 

 

[Mack Technician]

On ‎11‎/‎3‎/‎2019 at 9:55 AM, Maxidyne said:

Good points. And while I generally stay out of politics here, if folks wanna talk about politicians, please quit obsessing over candidates who haven't run in years and hold no public office.

Teamsterrr, that’s the biggest line of bologna I’ve heard to date. Look in the mirror....your a recovered (& reincarnated) political alcoholic. You tip toed in and took a little sip of the wine tonight. It felt warm and smooth going down and you liked it. Keith’s going to pour another glass and you’ll be flat off the wagon by morning. 🍷 

I’m not faulting you, it’s a disease not a choice. Plus, 2020 is so close now. 

Edited November 4, 2019 by Mack Technician

[other dog]

On 10/31/2019 at 9:00 AM, 1958 F.W.D. said:

Trump could cure cancer tomorrow and the Dems would blast him for putting millions in the healthcare industry out of work

I believe this to be true.

[david wild]

If Trumps son got a job anywhere and the left loons thought it was because he was Trumps son they would start another impeachment on that, but Biden"s son DID get a job only because his father was VP and the left say's nothing to see here, yet somehow if the right looks into it then that's bad, our children struggle every day to make ends meet, Biden's kid gets a $50,000 a month job with no experience  and it's all OK, how do you as a left loon justify that ?????

[Keith S]

1. The Stock Market history lesson
   1. What the Right Believes - Trump saves the world    
   2. What happened before Trump saved the world -   
      1. Hmm... looks like it started climbing when Obama took office.

[Mack Technician]

Fake News!,

Charts don’t tell the story.....

Obama got hosed, he walked into 2008. The bubble was ready to pop and the news of his election was the needle. Problem is he made it worse. He used quantitative easing, a known failed system, to crawl out of ‘08. Massive money print off to fortify a failing economy. Made things look hunky dory. Also dumped the cash into “cash for clunkers”, $8,000 housing bonus, etc. The fed printed so much funny money we still can’t raise the interest rates for any amount of time today. If we raise rates the flow slows and the ship starts leaning toward hyper inflation risk. 

Recall at the 2016 election. Most or all respectable financial/banking advisories said “no matter who you vote for we are having a recession in the first term of the next presidency”.  That’s where Trump has beat the odds and shown himself to be exceptional. As well as “Those jobs aren’t coming back”, another Trump victory. 

If you want to bash Trump attack his personality, he’s fruity. Talk about him saying he’d date his daughter because she’s a babe... 🤮.

 

Edited November 4, 2019 by Mack Technician

[david wild]

She is kinda cute and have her for dinner any day.

[TS7]

It is frightening that the left has lost its grip on reality. If half this country cannot tell  truth from falsehood, we have a dark future. The Elite's way of life is under attack by Trump. I can think for myself and can tell the truth from total BS. We have his back, the people on the left better be careful what they wish for.

[Keith S]

Umm... charts show history (what has happened), trends (what has been happening), and possibly predictions for the future.

For example:

1. Here's a chart verifying that climate change is a hoax by China:
2. 
3. Here's a chart verifying climate change is real:
4. 
5. So, how do we know the CO2 levels from 800,000 years ago?
   1. Find a place on earth that's been frozen for millions of years.
   2. Using a coring drill, drill deep down into the ice
   3. 
   4. Place the core in a sealed chamber
      1. Measuring the size and density of the air bubbles trapped in the ice determine the approximate age of that section of the ice core.
      2. The air inside that bubble shows the atmospheric conditions (oxygen, nitrogen, carbon dioxide...) ten-of-thousands of years ago
   5. The core may contain volcanic ash, dust, soot, plant pollen... etc.
   6. 

[Mack Technician]

Fake(r) news. Read Genesis.

 

The predictions Mark Levin made in early 2017 have been spot on. First major prediction fail is playing out. He said a large portion of the right would desert Trump when the Dems produced grounds for a pseudo-impeachment. I’d earmark Rand Paul as the author of the prediction fail. 

Edited November 6, 2019 by Mack Technician

[Keith S]

On 11/2/2019 at 3:18 PM, david wild said:

To Keith S

1. The IRS did persecute conservatives, 
2. guns did go across the border then were used to murder a border agent,
3. Hillary did give away the our uranium for her benefit plus made sure
4. 4 good men died because she had her head up her ass,
5. Obama drew a line in the sand  and then moved it ten times,
6. he also paid Iran hostage money then lied about it
7. under Obama ISIS was born due to his being incompetent, and
8. Under Obama the 16 election was hacked by the Russians
9. that happened while Obama was watching the store
10. OH and the unemployment rate was going to stay high and just get use to it, and those manufacturing jobs were gone and never to come back and we will kill coal to help the environment when it was to kill the price of coal so third world baboon farmers could have cheap electric power and we got stuffed and the environment got screwed, yes sir Obama and his crowd did great things.

1. And... criminal probe ordered by United States Attorney General Eric Holder, a Obama appointee. 😱 A democrat initiating a criminal investigation against "liberal-leaning" groups. 😱
2. Fast and Furious: Track firearms as they were transferred (sold) to higher-level [drug] traffickers (straw purchasers) and key figures in Mexican cartels, with the expectation that this would lead to their arrests and the dismantling of the cartels. Of 2,000 guns, 710 were recovered and one United States Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was killed in December 2010.
3. The 2010 sale to Rosatom was subject to approval by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, an intergovernmental agency that includes input from the Departments of:
   1. State
   2. Treasury
   3. Justice
   4. Energy
   5. Defense
   6. Commerce
   7. Homeland Security
   8. The Office of the U.S. Trade Representative.
   9. Beyond the State Department, eight other government agencies approved the Uranium One sale
4. Benghazi.
   1. If only it were that simple.
   2. The panel (chaired by Trey Gowdy), spent more than $7.8 million over two and a half years, disbanded at the end of the 114th Congress.
   3. The final report clocks in at more than 322,000 words.
   4. Have you read the report? YES/NO
5. He drew a line that was crossed and didn't back it up
6. Obama, China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom, the United States and the European Union agreed that if Iran signed the nuclear agreement, they would::
   1. Lift sanctions and the freeze on Iran’s assets that were held largely in foreign, not U.S., banks.
      1. The unfrozen funds belonged to Iran.
      2. The funds had only been made inaccessible by sanctions aimed at crippling the country’s nuclear program.
7. Think for yourself. This is right-wing millionaire talking heads nonsense.
8. A lose-lose situation.
   1. It was publicly acknowledge that Russia (not the Ukraine) was trying to mess with the election.
   2. Moscow Mitch buried it.
   3. One of the candidates was predicting that the election was going to be ‘rigged’ in some way.'
   4. There was "...concern that by making the statement we might, in and of itself, be challenging the integrity of the election process itself."
9. And...
10. This is gibberish
    1. If you want a discussion, get your thoughts together.

Edited November 6, 2019 by Keith S