Bullheaded Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Saw the first dump truck on the lots with the new X12 Cummins. More pics and the spec sheet on the dealer site here. https://www.truckandtrailer.ca/en/content/2020-western-star-4700sb-dump-truck-ottawa 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/59939-star-with-x12/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I can See X12 powered Starcars taking a fair few Sales from PACCAR due to their refusal to use the X12.......... Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/59939-star-with-x12/#findComment-436921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I thought Paccar put the X12 in the T 800's. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/59939-star-with-x12/#findComment-436935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
storkmack Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 The X12 was an option in our 567 Pete’s. We went with X15’s though. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/59939-star-with-x12/#findComment-436973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 The X12 is NOT available from Paccar. The previous ISX12 was available.....and popular. But this year, when the X12 replaced the ISX12, Paccar did not sign a purchase agreement with Cummins for the X12, opting to only offer its own Paccar engines. Currently, only Autocar, Freightliner* and Western Star offer the X12 in the U.S. market. Paccar, I feel, shot themselves in the foot. Customers like choice, and the X12 is a great option. Their arrogant decision has already alienated a lot of Paccar customers. * https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/59782-cummins-x12-endurant-powertrain-now-available-in-regional-haul-applications/?tab=comments#comment-435627 https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/55010-cummins-x12-engine-now-available-for-freightliner-114sd/ 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/59939-star-with-x12/#findComment-436983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
storkmack Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 hours ago, kscarbel2 said: The X12 is NOT available from Paccar. The previous ISX12 was available.....and popular. But this year, when the X12 replaced the ISX12, Paccar did not sign a purchase agreement with Cummins for the X12, opting to only offer its own Paccar engines. Currently, only Autocar, Freightliner (a new development) and Western Star offer the X12 in the U.S. market. Paccar, I feel, shot themselves in the foot. Customers like choice, and the X12 is a great option. Their arrogant decision has already alienated a lot of Paccar customers. Well the Pete we speced was in the fall of 17’ and we liked the X15 enough that we didn’t even ask about it on the one we ordered this spring. Told them, to send another just like the last one. You know, like we used to do with Mack. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/59939-star-with-x12/#findComment-436995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 11 hours ago, kscarbel2 said: The X12 is NOT available from Paccar. The previous ISX12 was available.....and popular. But this year, when the X12 replaced the ISX12, Paccar did not sign a purchase agreement with Cummins for the X12, opting to only offer its own Paccar engines. Currently, only Autocar, Freightliner (a new development) and Western Star offer the X12 in the U.S. market. Paccar, I feel, shot themselves in the foot. Customers like choice, and the X12 is a great option. Their arrogant decision has already alienated a lot of Paccar customers. It's not an option here at All..!! I suspect Western Star might offer it. But they've lost the Plot a bit, since PENSKE took over the Distribution rights Down here.. 1 Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/59939-star-with-x12/#findComment-436996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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