Impeached

[david wild]

Yep, what a waste of time and tax payer money, Trump will be President when the next election comes up and hopefully be reelected, Democrats sure care about the average person, just waste more money that WE have to pay back, I cannot even say what I feel honestly about the Democrat/liberal losers because I would most likely get banned for my comments. Relish your day you will regret it. 

[kscarbel2]

Trump is the only good option on the list for Wall Street and "big business". Therefore he will be re-elected.

[mrgumby]

Looked like pelosi or what ever that bitch name is. Looked like she was ready to break out in laughter when she read it.  She’s gotta go 

[HeavyGunner]

What a sad state our government is in. Power, corruption and greed are far more important to politicians on both sides than the well being of our country. 

[TS7]

The real reason that many in the government on both sides are against Trump is that he has a flashlight and is looking in the dark corners. He is exposing there corruption and greed, they need to stop him. Real honest Americans see what is happening here and know right from wrong. Careful what they wish for, this is not over.  

[1958 F.W.D.]

David Wild, you misspelled the title of this thread. 

The correct spelling is "Re-Elected." 

[Freightrain]

The news the other day basically said...they want to impeach him so they can investigate and find evidence.  Say what?  I though you needed evidence to investigate and charge someone with a crime?  Not charge him and then try to find evidence.   

 

[CaptainCrutch]

Common misunderstanding, but impeaching an official isn't charging them with a crime, it's having enough evidence to conduct a trial, and limit presidential powers during said trial. Trump is still our president and will continue to be for a while. The senate will now conduct a trial and make a final verdict. Chances are the verdict is not guilty considering you need two-thirds majority senate vote to remove a president and unless there's damning, undeniable evidence against Trump they're not going to get that.

[tjc transport]

and that will ensure his re election. 

[DJC]

Remind me again, who's paying for the "wall"?

[hurstscrambler]

I have no dog in this fight, I think they are all corrupt clowns who are robbing us blind, every last one of them.  That said, sending a big city real estate developer to fix corruption and expose greed is like sending a rat for cheese.  

I’ve enjoyed the show so far though.  Good, bad or indifferent I believe he will be elected again in 2020.  It will be entertaining for sure, I’m surprised the impeachment has gone this far honestly.  Andy

[DJC]

Smugglers are sawing through new sections of Trump’s border wall

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/smugglers-are-sawing-through-new-sections-of-trumps-border-wall/2019/11/01/25bf8ce0-fa72-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html?arc404=true

[tjc transport]

so according to the washington post, smugglers are sawing through a wall that does not exist? 

[HeavyGunner]

People are so divided based on stupid political lines they can’t even support someone doing the right thing for our country.

1) unemployment down-check

2) makes trade deals fair for the USA, not just for everyone else-check

3) points out hypocrisy on both sides of the isle-check

4) bring manufacturing jobs back to the USA-check

5) is he trying to pull out of the Middle East like everyone has wanted for 10 years (except the left does t want that now since it’s a republican doing it)-check

6)is he a billionaire who has used every tax loop hole to his benefit? The same loop holes all of the poor, destitute lefties that admonish him have used (Hillary, Bernie, Pelosi, etc)?  Who says things he shouldn’t? Check

[Mack Technician]

It's unsettling to me how they keep falling back on "public opinion" being somehow involved with Trumps Impeachment. As if the publics opinion is going to be the basis to condemn or acquit him?  What kind of Kangaroo Court are they orchestrating?? When's the last time the Supreme Court, or any court, leaned on the public for consensus over a verdict?     

[Mack Technician]

5 hours ago, DJC said:

Smugglers are sawing through new sections of Trump’s border wall

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/smugglers-are-sawing-through-new-sections-of-trumps-border-wall/2019/11/01/25bf8ce0-fa72-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html?arc404=true

lol, more  from the Bezos Fake News Network ...…..

Yes, a "new section" was cut through, on November 2nd, that didn't have sensors installed yet because it was "New".  

[Quickfarms]

lol, more  from the Bezos Fake News Network ...…..
Yes, a "new section" was cut through, on November 2nd, that didn't have sensors installed yet because it was "New".  

This is typical for the news

They have no ethics to portray the facts and twist it for there political agenda or ratings.

I am also coming to the conclusion that the entire education system faces the same problem with ethics.

In my business working for educators is worse than working for contractors

This reminds me of an incident that happened on some rich guys property. The contractor convinced him that CAT padlocks were super secure, he goes through this whole speal to me all the while I am thinking the keys are under the seat on my truck.

[Red Horse]

5 hours ago, HeavyGunner said:

People are so divided based on stupid political lines they can’t even support someone doing the right thing for our country.

1) unemployment down-check

2) makes trade deals fair for the USA, not just for everyone else-check

3) points out hypocrisy on both sides of the isle-checko4) bring manufacturing jobs back to the USA-check

5) is he trying to pull out of the Middle East like everyone has wanted for 10 years (except the left does t want that now since it’s a republican doing it)-check

6)is he a billionaire who has used every tax loop hole to his benefit? The same loop holes all of the poor, destitute lefties that admonish him have used (Hillary, Bernie, Pelosi, etc)?  Who says things he shouldn’t? Check

All good and valid points-including your last one.  Did I vote for him? Yes.  Will I vote for him again?  Given what options  we see now, for sure. Do I like him ? No! He IMO too often does come across as an arrogant, self centered jack ass who just likes to put himself in the limelight.

But in my career did I work with people like that?  As peers or subordinates? yes.  But the key always was, did they deliver in terms of results?  Yes or no.  That is what counts.   And at this point I have to  say for sure he has delivered-for sure when you compare 8 years under BO.

And having said that do I worry about him having the red phone on his desk?  I do but again look at the options before us- are there any of them who would make me comfortable?  No.

I keep saying- "when are his handlers going to get him in control?"  Case in point-last night another dumb ass performance when he played to the galleries when he shit on Dingell who ..."might be looking up".  Implying he was in hell.   and his comments that ..."I ordered the flags at half staff when he died and his wife called me up and was so grateful" . Then he proceeds to rip her a new AH because she voted for  his impeachment.  The message he put out.." I did something for her (lowered the flag)-and she voted against me"  uh? quid pro quo??

What you would expect from a little rich kid whose daddy gave him a grub stake of a million.  And who  was always in the background running interference for Jr.  Says he grew up in the construction business.  Really?  In his book he talked about when he took over the construction of the ice rink for the city he had .."the cement trucks lined up".  Uh Donald, real construction guys know that "cement" is an ingredient that when added to sand and stone makes that wonderful product known as "concrete".  By the way I drove one of those "cement" trucks- 104,000 lbs gross of portland  cement -beautiful R Model and a Heil dry bulker!Insert other media

He should win in a landslide with the clowns that I see on the debate tonight running against him.  But I fear his  continual juvenile attitudes will have too many people voting against him-just because he is so phony and arrogant.  

Maybe someone should have him spend some time watching tapes of Reagan in action.  He might learn something.  And last thought- I have seen videos of interviews he did 20 or 30 years ago.  Perhaps he should look at those as well as in my mind he came across as a sensible guy who checked his ego at the door before he did the interview.

Results will be forgotten when people-in particular women voters, cast their vote.  At least as I see it...Fire away!

[HeavyGunner]

All very true RH. I feel about the same way. I find it exhausting listening to politicians who bitch no matter what the other side does even if it’s exactly what they said they’d do. For the most part I couldn’t stand Barak. But he did a pretty good job at deporting illegals, droning bad guys in the Middle East, and from what I understand gave the final go ahead on Osama. All good things even though I didn’t like a lot of his policies or vote for him. Apparently today there’s no middle ground, it’s one side or the other and the politicians are capitalizing on that and lining their own pockets along the way. 

[DJC]

23 hours ago, Mack Technician said:

lol, more  from the Bezos Fake News Network ...…..

Let me guess...there's only one truthful news network and that's Fox

[DJC]

Evangelical publication calls for Trump's removal from office

(CNN)A leading Christian magazine founded by late evangelist Billy Graham -- father of key presidential supporter Franklin Graham -- published an op-ed on Thursday calling for President Donald Trump to be removed from office and urging evangelicals not to support him.

"Whether Mr. Trump should be removed from office by the Senate or by popular vote next election—that is a matter of prudential judgment," Christianity Today's editor in chief, Mark Galli, wrote in the op-ed. "That he should be removed, we believe, is not a matter of partisan loyalties but loyalty to the Creator of the Ten Commandments."

Galli continued, "We believe the impeachment hearings have made it absolutely clear, in a way the Mueller investigation did not, that President Trump has abused his authority for personal gain and betrayed his constitutional oath. The impeachment hearings have illuminated the president's moral deficiencies for all to see."

"None of the president's positives can balance the moral and political danger we face under a leader of such grossly immoral character," he added.

The publication, an influential one among evangelicals, has criticized Trump before on immigration and other issues, but never before called for his removal. The op-ed shows potential reasoning for dissent among a key faction of the Republican coalition as Trump prepares for a potential Senate trial following his impeachment by the House of Representatives Wednesday night.

"To the many evangelicals who continue to support Mr. Trump in spite of his blackened moral record, we might say this: Remember who you are and whom you serve," Galli wrote. "Consider how your justification of Mr. Trump influences your witness to your Lord and Savior. Consider what an unbelieving world will say if you continue to brush off Mr. Trump's immoral words and behavior in the cause of political expediency."

The magazine's web servers were strained by all the web traffic when the editorial came out on Thursday afternoon. After some temporary hiccups, service was mostly restored.

Jim Wallis, one of the nation's most prominent liberal evangelical leaders, called the op-ed's stance a "huge, watershed event," adding that the magazine is arguably the leading evangelical magazine in the nation.

"What CT is saying in their editorial is removing Donald Trump from office is now a matter of faith, not politics, and I agree," Wallis told CNN.

Wallis, founder of Sojourners magazine, says evangelicals made a "Faustian" bargain with Trump -- appoint the federal judges we want and we will look the other way.

"They have made the Faustian bargain that no matter what he does, it's all acceptable because he gives them the judges he wants," says Wallis, author of "Christ in Crisis: Why We Need to Reclaim Jesus."

As far as the impact of the announcement, Wallis says it may impact two groups of evangelicals the most: suburban white women and younger evangelicals who are already jaded by older evangelicals' embrace of Trump.

"I bet there are going to be a lot of younger evangelicals who are going to be really excited," Wallis said about the editorial.

He says there are now cracks in the wall of evangelical support for Trump. The call for removal may not sway the majority of evangelicals but just enough to make a difference in the 2020 election.

"You don't need a whole lot to shift the race, just a few votes in key places in key states could make the ultimate difference" Wallis said.

[Mack Technician]

I’m not cherry picking any news outlet to sky drop into Dave’s post, fake or otherwise. If I search the net long enough i’ll Find an article that says Trumps a Westboro Baptist alien shapeshifter clandestine to plant his genetic seed in Pelosi and create an Apex Conservative.

Best option is to put your viewpoint down and skip the “shock news” sky drops. Trump’s an easy target. He should be neutered for publicly admitting he’d date his hot daughter. 

[j hancock]

9 hours ago, DJC said:

Let me guess...there's only one truthful news network and that's Fox

Everyone has an agenda these days.  No one can claim the the truth.

If "news" organizations, Trump, Pelosi, McConnell and anyone else all said the sky was blue.  I would still look up to verify.

Impeachment was not the best scheme for the democrats and there are also plenty of times when Donnie needs to stay off twitter and wisely craft the words he wants to use.

Gee whiz, quid pro quo has been used since George Washington accepted assistance from the French in the Revolutionary War.  And this was the Dems basis?

[GreenGiant2]

This evangelical paper is shooting them selves in the foot. He has done more than any president for religious freedoms. He is not perfect just like we are not perfect. But he is the best candidate for the position.  The Dow Jones is not just for the 1%. Its for anyone that has money invested.  28455 pts is unheard of. I work hard and have investments . You make yourself what you want to be. . Sorry for my rant

[mackey58]

Sure