Popular Post 66dc75 Posted January 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2020 So work finally slowed down enough to do a little work on my R model. Previous owner had disconnected the heater core at some time and the windshield wipers were not working. I found an actual radiator shop (hard to find these days) that recored the heater core for me. I had bought a new wiper pivot assembly from Watts about a year and half ago so I put it in and found that the pins for the wiper transmission arms were spaced 1/4" further apart than the original ones so that wouldn't work. The original wasn't actually that worn, the wiper motor was a mess though. I called Rome truck parts and they had a rebuild kit for $22 so I figured I didn't have much to lose trying to rebuild it myself. The inside of the motor was well gunked up with rust oil and crap but cleaned up well. After putting the internal cam valve in wrong about 3-4 times I got it working. Put it back on truck and it works like newish. Going to do the heater box over and repaint the interior next. I looked everywhere for a rattle can that would come close to the green interior color, found a paint code on another thread that NAPA mixed up for me yesterday in a spray can ($24!) and it was pretty close. This morning a friend stopped by and said that the original color looked like Detroit Alpine Green. I had a can of can of engine paint in the cabinet and son of a bitch it's a perfect match. I learn something new every day which means I have to forget something else to make room in my limited brain.. Hoping to get a new paint job and new air seat in her by May. The bright green paint on the heater cover was a reject and had to remove it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Rich- And new color is??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66dc75 Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Red Horse said: Rich- And new color is??? Not sure yet, possibly match the Autocar or Blue fenders and white, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seyser Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Keep up the good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Good job! I wish you could get the perfect match on the interiour color. Speaking about the exterior I would advice to draw a simple picture of the truck using computer and than apply multiple colors and combos to get understanding on what you enjoy better. Thanks for the tip on that wiper air motor rebuild kit. I have electrical setup off a RD cab but using original old fashion air driven unit seems more authintic and interesting. Can you share the part # of that kit? Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66dc75 Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 19 hours ago, Vladislav said: Good job! I wish you could get the perfect match on the interiour color. Speaking about the exterior I would advice to draw a simple picture of the truck using computer and than apply multiple colors and combos to get understanding on what you enjoy better. Thanks for the tip on that wiper air motor rebuild kit. I have electrical setup off a RD cab but using original old fashion air driven unit seems more authintic and interesting. Can you share the part # of that kit? Hi Vlad the kit was a zip lock sandwich bag with the seals and o rings in it, no part number, very informal. I called them and gave them the numbers off the end of the wiper motor and they mailed it out. Their website is rometruckparts.com. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, 66dc75 said: Hi Vlad the kit was a zip lock sandwich bag with the seals and o rings in it, no part number, very informal. I called them and gave them the numbers off the end of the wiper motor and they mailed it out. Their website is rometruckparts.com. Did the same with my A-40 several years ago. Good people to deal with and straight shooters with information. Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenfive0 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 My CF-600 sprung a radiator leak. Tried to find a new one but no luck. Finding a radiator shop for a re-core isn't to big or a problem at least in my area. Getting the radiator out for repairs is turning out to be a major PITA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66dc75 Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 25 -30years ago you were never more than a few miles from a radiator shop, real automotive machine shop or starter alternator shop. Now not so much. Plastic tanks, and crate engines killed most of them off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, 66dc75 said: 25 -30years ago you were never more than a few miles from a radiator shop, real automotive machine shop or starter alternator shop. Now not so much. Plastic tanks, and crate engines killed most of them off. I think EPA stuff put the demise to a lot of small repair shops, couldn't afford all the new regulations. terry 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Lot of things killed them off around here. Crate engines and transmissions marketed by the major parts stores, complete radiators and starters available for less $$$ than parts can be rebuilt locally for, fuel injection cleaning up the byproducts of combustion lengthening the service intervals between major repair(s), EPA, gasoline costs driving the cost of racing exponential, insurance, machine tool costs to not need a skilled operator, etc. It's all factors and those machine shops that remain are quite expensive to use anymore. The ones around here remaining are down to just a couple of employees and sometimes begging for work. 1 Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenfive0 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I've had my CF-600 for 1-1/2 years and its been "time to fix up" since. It has been NOTHING THE EASY WAY.. Have you ever looked at something and say to yourself if I ever need to do that it will be a REAL PITA. Well that is the case with the radiator in my truck. I figured 48 years old perhaps the radiator might be an issue but I was hoping it wouldn't be. Have you ever heard the saying I feel much better since I've given up hope. Well that isn't the case. I have to be an odd ball and I like to be different but it all come at a cost. The radiator in a CF-600 is in the worst possible place imaginable buried and stuffed in the middle of the truck with no easy access. I guess should consider myself lucky because I've had a choice of about a half dozen different shops to do the re-core when the radiator is finally removed. After a few phone calls and interviews I've narrowed it down to a few shops I'd trust to do the work. Both are not small time operations mom and pop local shops. When I told one smaller shop the radiator has aluminum tanks he had no idea what I was talking about. Next on the list. I don't want to do this job twice and find out after I put the re-cored radiation in the truck it has a leak. Next on the list of "time to fix up" things that need to be done are the wiper motors. I tried removing the air lines and squirted WD-40 in the motors and air lines before reattaching. No Luck. The wiper might be slightly better but not by much. I looked at that wiper issue for the past 1-1/2 years and was hoping it wouldn't come down to removing and dismantling them but I've given up hope and I still don't feel any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 You'll never regret doing something once, and right. 1 Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenfive0 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I guess my first mistake was changing the fluids along with coolant when I first got the truck because it was purchased without service records. Stirred up the shi_ as they say. Dissecting and getting deeper into the radiator removal I notice the radiator might have been living on borrowed time. I can now see where the core meets the bottom tank there are signs of corrosion. If there was easy access I might have given a try to pinching off a row to try and by some time and limp around until spring. The truck is stuck outside and the current weather isn't cooperating or conducive to being warm a cozy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66dc75 Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 Cleaned up and painted the heater box. I think it's time to paint the interior, dynamat it and get a new airseat before the heater goes back in. It looks like the plastic front got rather warm at one time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 excellent thanks for sharing...bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66dc75 Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 Stripped the interior, it was pretty grubby and acne scarred under the floor mat. Scraped, chipped and wire brushed it before a heavy coat of rust reformer. Next stop brush on bedliner on the floor and a full covering with dynamat. Ordered 2 new midback air seats today too. Epoxied up the cracked steering wheel and squirted some paint on it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
609albert Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 what color green (spray can) did you use and manufacture ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66dc75 Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share Posted February 1, 2020 Duplicolor Detroit Alpine green engine paint, pretty much a dead on match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 66dc75 Posted February 11, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2020 Dynamatting well under way. Ordered 2 new airseats and made up new floor brackets for them. Got some pleated black vinyl material coming for back of cab, door panels and firewall. Going to get a new floormat too, might as well at this point.. Amazing how this stuff can snowball, I really just wanted to get the windshield wipers working again. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 66dc75 Posted February 16, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2020 Steering column out for painting and the new wheel. New seats came in, roll of embossed vinyl for the firewall door panels and can back came in. I've had a couple of truck speaker boxes under a bench for at least 15 years finally will have home for them. I plan on connectiing them together spaced apart to install a stereo and cb in between and use as a center console between the seats. Anybody know how to get the headliner down without cracking it? I'd like to dynamat the roof and change the air horn but it doesn't want to pop out. I really don't want to break it. Also found a dash panel on Craigslist that had a mack speedo and tach, my existing speedo doesn't have a bulldog and the tach is for a later truck. Dash came with a bulldog hood ornament and a really nice DM800 nameplate for 50 bucks, 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Awesome work! Thanks for the pics. My truck has insulation on the firewall, and I’ll just found a rust hole in the engine bay which has started from the inside. So looks like it’s all gotta come out now. Is the insulation for noise or heat or both? If it’s just for noise then I plan on doing what you done and dynamat the lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66dc75 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Timmyb said: Awesome work! Thanks for the pics. My truck has insulation on the firewall, and I’ll just found a rust hole in the engine bay which has started from the inside. So looks like it’s all gotta come out now. Is the insulation for noise or heat or both? If it’s just for noise then I plan on doing what you done and dynamat the lot. Thanks Tim, I did it for noise but it might help block some heat, The vinyl that's going on the firewall has some foam bonded to it so that should help too, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Looking good Rich-what are those seats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66dc75 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Red Horse said: Looking good Rich-what are those seats? Basic seats inc midbacks. Cheapest priced ones but they are comfortable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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