Popular Post Hobert62 Posted March 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just like the title says. The purists out there will prob be upset and the Mack gods unhappy. This is the beginning of my Cummins swap. I got my crane made up for the forklift so it’s soon time to try it out. 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) Question about b67 specifically. Where do you hook to engine to pull from the truck? Just curious do to it leaning and halfway under the cab. Edited March 14, 2020 by Hobert62 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Hmm, that's gunno be interesting. I know I made hooks to bolt on front and back of heads when I did mine. You might have to sling it side to side inbetween the heads since the rear of engine is buried. Hey, look at this way....you could be putting a Detroit in it!!!! Lol. 2 Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Freightrain said: Hey, look at this way....you could be putting a Detroit in it!!!! Lol. I’m hoping to get rid of my oil leaks not get more. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyGunner Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 What about one of these? https://www.harborfreight.com/2-ton-capacity-heavy-duty-load-leveler-60659.html?cid=paid_google|||60659&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=&utm_content=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoo3294Sa6AIV2CCtBh0Pwgu-EAQYASABEgL52vD_BwE Quote The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by the people who vote for a living.The government can only "give" someone what they first take from another. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, HeavyGunner said: What about one of these? https://www.harborfreight.com/2-ton-capacity-heavy-duty-load-leveler-60659.html?cid=paid_google|||60659&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=&utm_content=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoo3294Sa6AIV2CCtBh0Pwgu-EAQYASABEgL52vD_BwE I have one of those that is bent from use. Come to think of it the bearings don't roll well either from the bearing balls being pressed into the races. Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyGunner Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I wasn’t sure how well they would work with a truck engine but they are slick when used for pickups and passenger vehicles. Quote The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by the people who vote for a living.The government can only "give" someone what they first take from another. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 47 minutes ago, Hobert62 said: I’m hoping to get rid of my oil leaks not get more. Lol You can get a Detroit two stroke diesel to not leak oil but you have to assemble them correctly. My 12V-71T and several others over the years were kept leak free once this phenomena was addressed and good quality seals/gaskets installed with straight flanges were implemented. 1 Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, HeavyGunner said: I wasn’t sure how well they would work with a truck engine but they are slick when used for pickups and passenger vehicles. Your life very well can depend on what is on that hook remaining where you put it and that vendor is NOT the best choice with the inherent risk factor. 1 Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Car engine 400#. Mack truck engine 1500#. I dont care how Harbor Fraud lists it, I wouldn't use it. 1 Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) After removing the intake manifold, bolt onto the ports a strip of 1/2" steel with a pair of clevis or eyes welded to it. I like these types of clevis as easy to reposition: You can "pick" from these points and the engine will want to roll slightly to the left as it breaks free of the bellhousing. It's more manageable if the transmission is removed from the truck first. Do you have an SAE#1 housing on the Cummins, or using the original transmission? I would be interested in any leftover parts you may have from a B-67 for mine. Edited March 14, 2020 by Rob 1 Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenfive0 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I broke one of these also. If you look at the pictures listed with this contraption it's holding up a bare naked (looks like) Chevy Small Block. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 36 minutes ago, Rob said: You can get a Detroit two stroke diesel to not leak oil but you have to assemble them correctly. My 12V-71T and several others over the years were kept leak free once this phenomena was addressed and good quality seals/gaskets installed with straight flanges were implemented. Agree. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david wild Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 40 minutes ago, Rob said: You can get a Detroit two stroke diesel to not leak oil but you have to assemble them correctly. My 12V-71T and several others over the years were kept leak free once this phenomena was addressed and good quality seals/gaskets installed with straight flanges were implemented. Me too I stopped putting oil in it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 37 minutes ago, Rob said: After removing the intake manifold, bolt onto the ports a strip of 1/2" steel with a pair of clevis or eyes welded to it. You can "pick" from these points and the engine will want to roll slightly as it breaks free of the bellhousing. It's more manageable if the transmission is removed from the truck first. Do you have an SAE#1 housing on the Cummins, or using the original transmission? I would be interested in any leftover parts you may have from a B-67 for mine. I like the idea for using intake. My new setup uses a #2 bell housing. I will pretty much everything left from driveshaft yoke to fan. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, david wild said: Me too I stopped putting oil in it. Probably got real quiet shortly afterward too..... Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hobert62 said: I like the idea for using intake. My new setup uses a #2 bell housing. I will pretty much everything left from driveshaft yoke to fan. That is what I did but my lifting bar was a bit different and experimented with to find center, or balance point. I had the luxury of an engine on the floor from a donor to build from however. Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hobert62 said: I like the idea for using intake. My new setup uses a #2 bell housing. I will pretty much everything left from driveshaft yoke to fan. I'd be interested in whatever you have. Looking at another chassis which was robbed of powertrain years ago. 1 Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditchdiggerjcf Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Why go through so much trouble to put an inferior engine in that truck? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hobert62 Posted March 14, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2020 49 minutes ago, Ditchdiggerjcf said: Why go through so much trouble to put an inferior engine in that truck? Inferior is just an opinion I guess. If being able to get parts off the shelf about anywhere, almost twice the hp and torque as my n/a673, being 100 + cubic inches smaller making fit better, and the fact it’s been around for 30 years makes it inferior, then I guess it is. I also have freightliner air ride, power steering from a fl70, and front axle from a fld120. I’m building the truck to use and abuse with parts that are reliable, easily available to me, and have people experienced in working on them. And mostly because I want to. 7 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Freightrain said: Car engine 400#. Mack truck engine 1500#. I dont care how Harbor Fraud lists it, I wouldn't use it. I wouldn't trust it with 400# either. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, 41chevy said: I wouldn't trust it with 400# either. Mine failed with a a GM 3.4ltr engine going into a Monte Carlo which is not a heavy engine by any means. Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 3 hours ago, HeavyGunner said: What about one of these? https://www.harborfreight.com/2-ton-capacity-heavy-duty-load-leveler-60659.html?cid=paid_google|||60659&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=&utm_content=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoo3294Sa6AIV2CCtBh0Pwgu-EAQYASABEgL52vD_BwE I have one similar but without taking heads off there’s no way it would fit. Being a b67 my front end is 8” shorter then a standard B. The back 1/3 of motor is crammed in a dog house under the dash. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditchdiggerjcf Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Hobert62 said: Inferior is just an opinion I guess. If being able to get parts off the shelf about anywhere, almost twice the hp and torque as my n/a673, being 100 + cubic inches smaller making fit better, and the fact it’s been around for 30 years makes it inferior, then I guess it is. I also have freightliner air ride, power steering from a fl70, and front axle from a fld120. I’m building the truck to use and abuse with parts that are reliable, easily available to me, and have people experienced in working on them. And mostly because I want to. Then it would have been nice of you to start with a less complete truck rather than butchering a complete one. IMHO 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post keg1 Posted March 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2020 i love when people tell you what you should do with things you work for and pay for with your money. you should have left it sitting in the weeds somewhere rusting away instead of doing what you want with it. ill bet the coronavirus made you do it. keep up the good work 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/61453-and-so-it-begins/#findComment-445439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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