Red Horse Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Local dealer has a 7.3 650 on the lot and I popped the hood. When they start offering air brakes in 7.3 powered 650/750's, it will be next to Alternator. Oil filler could use an extension IMO but everything else in terms of fluids looks decent. Engine/trans dipsticks on curb side. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadwayR Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Access on the right side is awful. Electrical box (assuming it's full of fuses and relays) outboard of the coolant tank and washer fluid bottle is a mistake, fluids will be spilled on it and I doubt it's weatherproof. Disappointing it has a real thrown-together look about it. Bet it runs good though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 There's a difference between looking at a photograph and viewing in person. But based on the pictures I'd have to agree, that fitment appears poorly done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h67st Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 10 hours ago, RoadwayR said: Access on the right side is awful. Electrical box (assuming it's full of fuses and relays) outboard of the coolant tank and washer fluid bottle is a mistake, fluids will be spilled on it and I doubt it's weatherproof. Disappointing it has a real thrown-together look about it. Bet it runs good though. Yeah, I'd hate to work on the right side of that engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 Here is the GM/Inter. JV Any better? Stick a V-8under the hood of anything and it sucks IMO. Only thing that isbetter on this vs 650 is 19.5 wheels vs 22.5. Roadway? what vehicles today DON'T have major relays/fuse boxes under hood vs stuffed under dash/on firewall inside? I remember the intro videos of this JV one of the talking points was,..."crank the steering and you step inside the tire" . And then what? Just like the Ford, you get your sockets out and start removing plastic panels/stuff to get at your engine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 The International is a CV Red Horse, not JV. Just to save confusion. No matter how bad these look, still 100% better than lifting the cab off a Superduty to do engine work, LOL But very glad to see the 7.3 Gasser in the new Ford's. I would absolutely buy that over a diesel if I ever had to replace my current F550. And besides, with the gas engine what real access to the engine do you need? Other than spark plugs nothing ever really needs to be touched with them, unlike the new diesel's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 And good pics. Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, Bullheaded said: The International is a CV Red Horse, not JV. Just to save confusion. No matter how bad these look, still 100% better than lifting the cab off a Superduty to do engine work, LOL But very glad to see the 7.3 Gasser in the new Ford's. I would absolutely buy that over a diesel if I ever had to replace my current F550. And besides, with the gas engine what real access to the engine do you need? Other than spark plugs nothing ever really needs to be touched with them, unlike the new diesel's. BH, Agree 100% on lifting cab-although I've heard some pretty low times that guys say they can do it in. Oh and by "JV" I was referring to GM/International "Joint Venture". When I get a chance I' m going to take some shots of a Power Stroke in a 650/750. My bet is that will be another selling feature for the 7.3. At least you can SEE one side of the motor😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) Why accept just a tilt hood when you can get a whole cab that tilts? Edited April 30, 2020 by Maxidyne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 46 minutes ago, Maxidyne said: Why accept just a tilt hood when you can get a whole cab that tilts? Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadwayR Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 The International looks as cluttered as the Ford, but it is a turbo diesel V-8. Should be worse! The CV looks a little better laid out and the smaller wheel/tire combo helps. There is a chance I will be in the market for a class 6 in a couple of years and you guys are right, I would strongly consider an Isuzu FTR or the Chevy 6500 equivalent . Particularly if they offer a gasoline engine by that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Red Horse said: BH, Agree 100% on lifting cab-although I've heard some pretty low times that guys say they can do it in. Oh and by "JV" I was referring to GM/International "Joint Venture". When I get a chance I' m going to take some shots of a Power Stroke in a 650/750. My bet is that will be another selling feature for the 7.3. At least you can SEE one side of the motor😎 Oh ok Red Horse. I didn't catch on to the 'joint venture" LOL. I think book time for lifting the cab is 4 or 5 hours i can't remember which now. Or (in the 6 litre days anyway) you could make a permanent "dent" in the firewall which allowed you get the heads off with the cab on. My only issue with lifting the cab is I only seem to have very incompetent dealers and dealer mechanics where i live. They can't even replace a rear view mirror head properly, so I really don't want these people removing my cab and bolting it back on, LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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