Countrylife Posted May 27, 2020 Author Share Posted May 27, 2020 It runs and DRIVES both directions!! The U joint on the shift linkage is a Rockwell L6N or MOOG 861 if anyone ever need to look Reverse is still tricky to find but it is there, it does not like to be clutched into gears as much at just coerced but that is fine. Will get it out on the road as soon as I get some signals and then the fun can begin. I m excited to start fixing the fun stuff. I was debating on chromed up super singles on the rear but leaning away from it I think they will not do well on the farm and in the snow Other than that I am looking for the grill pieces and on of the toolbox doors. Is there a new2me yard that specializes in these? Cheers. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
85snowdog Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Glad to hear it moves . Thats definitely a step in the right direction. When it comes to adding shinny stuff, remember ....... Chrome don't get you home Thanks for including us in your project. I've enjoyed it Quote Keith Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countrylife Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 The battery cutoff and the ignition switch are clearly a problem The cuttoff is frozen on and something is leaking heavily to ground. I get 12v from the aluminum step up to the Cab. My seems to be similar to everyone elses it looks like there is a master disconnect on top and a key powered solenoid. I think I will replace those 2 and see what happens. It is difficult to diagnose as there is so much current leaking into the chassis Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countrylife Posted May 31, 2020 Author Share Posted May 31, 2020 Does anyone have a parts book for a 1983 MH 613? I am stumped on the shift linkage ball joints. The larger one I think is just something someone stuffed in there as it was not fitting correctly and the lower one does not seem to match anything I can measure out. I think I should start with what was supposed to be there and go from there. Thanks in advance for the help if anyone has a book. I wanted to buy one but they are few and far between it seems Cheers. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHfred Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 It would probably be a good idea to find a parts truck for all the things you need. Good used grille pieces are few and far between though. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countrylife Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 2 hours ago, MHfred said: It would probably be a good idea to find a parts truck for all the things you need. Good used grille pieces are few and far between though. I have been thinking on that, FYI I need several little body and trim pieces. every piece of my grill has a little something broken on it. I wonder about having a replacement made out of polished aluminum or something Would be a pain to cut out but might be a solution. Someday someone will read this and hopefully this will save a bit of searching The thermal fuse (electric breaker) is a Klixon 6766-19-100 $53 from Peerless the Continuous duty Solenoid is a White Rogers 124-906 $39 from Ebay (if you want the exact replacement) U-joint at the bottom of the shift linkage is crosses to a MasterPro 861 (There are tons of subs from different manufacturers) All that said, I am trying to sort the electrical gremlins right now.... 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countrylife Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 On 5/15/2020 at 1:42 PM, Vladislav said: The engine looks like 2V E6-350 which was installed in MH's before 1985. It must have a chassis mounted intercooler in front of the main radiator. Very reliable engine and the most of parts are easy to fing and cost reasonable. The solenoid looks like a main shut off relay. R-model has similar part installed under the dash. It gets on when you turn the ignition key and supplys power to instrumet panel gauges and alternator. Probably to other circuits either. Some outside lights (or all?) and engine starter are supplied straight passing the relay. I didn't look for the relay in MH since didn't have a trouble but my R-model has it inoperational from time to time. Usually after the truck is parked for too long. Actually it gets stuck and you have to turn the key multiple times or slightly hit the relay body. Once I bought the truck the previous owner hitted it every time he switched the ignition. I took the solenoid apart, cleaned and greased it and it turned out troublefree. But in a few years it started remembering me his existance. Anyone have some recommendations on oil for this? Our 6v92's take Delo 100 straight 30wt but I am thinking Delo 400 for this.... 15w40 unless I am way off on something here. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditchdiggerjcf Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Any 15w40 will be fine. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countrylife Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 14 hours ago, Ditchdiggerjcf said: Any 15w40 will be fine. Thanks, our Detroit's seem a little sensitive but that has to do with the injectors Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 36 minutes ago, Countrylife said: Thanks, our Detroit's seem a little sensitive but that has to do with the injectors Really, worked on a many of them back in the day, never heard that before. Can you explain? Very curious. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditchdiggerjcf Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Injectors going bad shouldn't have anything to do with the motor oil you are running. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countrylife Posted June 7, 2020 Author Share Posted June 7, 2020 No, I am thinking that as they have a rack and mechanical injectors, they seem to be set up for Delo and prefer it. Maybe it was just me but I felt that when we ran a different oil, they were not as happy but IDK for certain. I know I love the motors Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Countrylife said: No, I am thinking that as they have a rack and mechanical injectors, they seem to be set up for Delo and prefer it. Maybe it was just me but I felt that when we ran a different oil, they were not as happy but IDK for certain. I know I love the motors I gotcha they definitely need the straight weight delo 100. & 40w is fine especially if it’s got some wear Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countrylife Posted June 7, 2020 Author Share Posted June 7, 2020 18 hours ago, 1965 said: I gotcha they definitely need the straight weight delo 100. & 40w is fine especially if it’s got some wear Well, ours have been "Fettled" a bit as well. We put slightly bigger injectors on them. Added blower gears with an extra tooth and bigger turbos out of 8v71s so they make a little more HP. Then we straight piped the exhaust. Does anyone know if the top of the dipstick is supposed to be flush with the pop of the neck? I think the handle fell off ours so I am not sure if it supposed to be down more or flush. Not that overfilling a little will hurt but I do not want to be way over. Now it just kinda sits there. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countrylife Posted June 7, 2020 Author Share Posted June 7, 2020 Another Question, On the bottom of the tranny there is an inspection plate missing with a grease zirk on a tube and some sort of shift collar in it. (Hi/Low?) Is it common to remove that plate and leave it off? It seems to have been gone for a while based on the grease on the flange. I am worried some tranny issue got this parked years ago. Thanks Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 33 minutes ago, Countrylife said: Well, ours have been "Fettled" a bit as well. We put slightly bigger injectors on them. Added blower gears with an extra tooth and bigger turbos out of 8v71s so they make a little more HP. Then we straight piped the exhaust. Does anyone know if the top of the dipstick is supposed to be flush with the pop of the neck? I think the handle fell off ours so I am not sure if it supposed to be down more or flush. Not that overfilling a little will hurt but I do not want to be way over. Now it just kinda sits there. Never heard of doing that either, I must have gotten old! (except the straight pipe part) Oil level on a DD would be bout top of oil pan rail, not sure on the MACK. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Countrylife said: Another Question, On the bottom of the tranny there is an inspection plate missing with a grease zirk on a tube and some sort of shift collar in it. (Hi/Low?) Is it common to remove that plate and leave it off? It seems to have been gone for a while based on the grease on the flange. I am worried some tranny issue got this parked years ago. Thanks Sounds like zerk for throw out bearing, don’t over grease, watch & or listen for grease. Should also be zerks on each side of trans for the shaft & fork that pulls throw out bearing. Lots of covers have been taken off, it’ll be ok for farm use Edited June 7, 2020 by 1965 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countrylife Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 A quick question but does anyone have contact for a guy named Mike Harbison Someone mentioned he had a few cabovers for parts and was on a few Mack Groups I need several things like heater controls, toolbox doors, pedal assembly, visor etc. Not sure if anyone knows a place for parts but I have talked to a few and they never get back to me. Thanks in advance.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) you can pm mike from this site---------superdog Edited June 10, 2020 by carlotpilot Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-452997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 PM Mike Harbison. Mike's "Superdog" account is screwed up and he can't access it and have it work correctly. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-453002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditchdiggerjcf Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 9 hours ago, Countrylife said: A quick question but does anyone have contact for a guy named Mike Harbison Someone mentioned he had a few cabovers for parts and was on a few Mack Groups I need several things like heater controls, toolbox doors, pedal assembly, visor etc. Not sure if anyone knows a place for parts but I have talked to a few and they never get back to me. Thanks in advance.. Pedal assembly? Did you tear up the one that was stuck? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-453005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry T Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Mike is a member here as well as several Mack related FB groups. Mike Harbinson Sr is who your looking for but his son, Mike Harbinson is also on FB and one most of the FB sites as well. I just text Mike and told him to check out this thread. I'm hoping to stop over and see him in a couple weeks as I'll be at a memorial service for a friend only about 70 miles from his place. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-453016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countrylife Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 On 5/31/2020 at 5:18 PM, MHfred said: It would probably be a good idea to find a parts truck for all the things you need. Good used grille pieces are few and far between though. I am looking hard for one, I did find a guy locally who has some parts, not a ton it sounds like but a few to keep me moving. Does anyone know if the Ultraliner Grill will swap? I have found one of those 10 hours ago, Terry T said: Mike is a member here as well as several Mack related FB groups. Mike Harbinson Sr is who your looking for but his son, Mike Harbinson is also on FB and one most of the FB sites as well. I just text Mike and told him to check out this thread. I'm hoping to stop over and see him in a couple weeks as I'll be at a memorial service for a friend only about 70 miles from his place. Thank you so much!! 14 hours ago, Ditchdiggerjcf said: Pedal assembly? Did you tear up the one that was stuck? Not too much but it is pretty corroded. Functional for the short term but not really nice looking or all still there... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-453073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Countrylife said: Does anyone know if the Ultraliner Grill will swap? The MH is a Mack Ultraliner. To my knowledge, it should fit fine. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-453091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddeere Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Mike Harbison Morning Sun , IA 52640 319 759 1776 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/62509-bought-a-1983-mack-mh-613-and-need-a-touch-of-help/page/4/#findComment-453092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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