ENDTB 865

[Sonrise]

Well if anyone can offer some basic info, I have a 865 with about 50K and would like to adjust the valves, knowing the firing order would really speed this up

[AZB755V8]

2 hours ago, Sonrise said:

Well if anyone can offer some basic info, I have a 865 with about 50K and would like to adjust the valves, knowing the firing order would really speed this up

That is a real low millage engine. Like a 1000 miles a year low.

There are plenty of E-9 engine manuals on Ebay. I have seen a few 865/866 manuals over time. Get an E-9 manual as it is the big brother to an 865. The E-9 has the same valve adjustment procedure with the addition of the cross-bridge you would not use anyway, 865's don't have them all else is the same. 865 (2valve),E-9 (4valve) 

[JoeH]

Firing orders are generally stamped cast into the block somewhere.

[Sonrise]

Thanks for the info the old girl is still tight

[j hancock]

17 hours ago, Sonrise said:

firing order

Have fun with your new project.

1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2

Cold intake .016

Cold exhaust .026

[Vladislav]

Would be nice to see some pictures of your truck. B615 is not a very common animal.

Vlad

[AZB755V8]

1 hour ago, j hancock said:

Have fun with your new project.

1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2

Cold intake .016

Cold exhaust .026

Just for reference the firing order is numbered like a Ford V8. 1-4 on one side 5-8 on the other.

What truck is it in an R or F would be my guess.

[mackdaddy]

I have a B615 and it came with the 864. I am not certain but doubt a 615 came from the factory with the 865?

[Brian L Blaylock]

I have a B-615 that has a ENDT-865 in it was installed by the Brian Blaylock shade tree modification and skinned knuckles engineering shop

[Sonrise]

Well the truck is a 1964 B615, something like 700 made. Original motor was a END864 Thermodyne, that motor stopped and found a ENDTB 865 crate motor in surplus in the mid 90's made in 1-75.

I'll get some photo's up in the near future.

Hey Brian I would like to see how you dealt with the turbo, on account of the firewall being in the way.

Next thing is to get rid of the armstrong steering.

[AZB755V8]

2 hours ago, Sonrise said:

Well the truck is a 1964 B615, something like 700 made. Original motor was a END864 Thermodyne, that motor stopped and found a ENDTB 865 crate motor in surplus in the mid 90's made in 1-75.

I'll get some photo's up in the near future.

Hey Brian I would like to see how you dealt with the turbo, on account of the firewall being in the way.

Next thing is to get rid of the armstrong steering.

There would have to be a doghouse modification to a B-615 to get the clearance around the turbo. It was a tight fit to put a 866 Thermodyne in my B755. No mods but tight. 

What did both of you do for the oil filters? The 865/866 standard twin spin on filters did not fit because of steering box location. I used the full flow remote Luberfinder and plumping off the retired 864. 

For power steering the only thing that worked for me was the hydraulic control valve on the drag link and slave on the tie rod setup because of no room for anything else. Don't know if that setup is still available.

Need photos or they don't exist. 🙃

 

 

[Brian L Blaylock]

No firewall modification on mine built new exhaust manifold sections and relocated turbo up and away from firewall I have a little trouble with air intake tube I built a bracket and used the oil filter mount for the 865 and mounted it on the frame behind the cab on driver side and connected with hoses 

[Sonrise]

With the ENDTB 865 on the B 615 going from the Thermodyne 864, the dog house was customized, as the years go on since the install in the mid 90's maintainence and access to the rear of the motor, that firewall was taken off. There is a main leaf on the rear that needs to be replaced so untill that happens she won't be going on the road regular. The thought to keep the exaust pressure equal was what led to cutting the fire wall.  keeps you warm in the winter and is like a sauna in the summer. I happened to look at the clearance in the twin spin on filter and steering box there is maybe .5 ", when the oil was changed, the filters wern't banged up from hitting the steering box, so they are working in this one. This truck body was never designed for 865, a longer nose on her, and set the engine ahead 1/2 a foot and the motor would fit. As it is she is running smooth, Just replaced the water pump, pulling the fenders and radiator is dam near nascar speed, really opens up the work area, To check what the problem was of oil in the water, the pan was dropped and pressurized the water system, there it was flowing down the front cover. Glad it wasn't linner seals,  looking around, don't know how but the pick up tube was unbolted and one oil cooler tubes was missing on number 4, they are still available and have one getting shipped, any info on installing that would be great. I would kinda like to keep her all original but, I hope to look into a oil driven steering box maybe mount on the outside of the frame. similar to a 359. 

[Sonrise]

On 8/16/2020 at 6:56 PM, Brian L Blaylock said:

I have a B-615 that has a ENDT-865 in it was installed by the Brian Blaylock shade tree modification and skinned knuckles engineering shop

This truck body was never designed for 865, a longer nose on her, and set the engine ahead 1/2 a foot and the motor would fit.

[Sonrise]

On 8/17/2020 at 10:58 AM, AZB755V8 said:

There would have to be a doghouse modification to a B-615 to get the clearance around the turbo. It was a tight fit to put a 866 Thermodyne in my B755. No mods but tight. 

What did both of you do for the oil filters? The 865/866 standard twin spin on filters did not fit because of steering box location. I used the full flow remote Luberfinder and plumping off the retired 864. 

For power steering the only thing that worked for me was the hydraulic control valve on the drag link and slave on the tie rod setup because of no room for anything else. Don't know if that setup is still available.

Need photos or they don't exist. 🙃

 

 

With the ENDTB 865 on the B 615 going from the Thermodyne 864, the dog house was customized, as the years go on since the install in the mid 90's maintainence and access to the rear of the motor, that firewall was taken off. There is a main leaf on the rear that needs to be replaced so untill that happens she won't be going on the road regular.

[Sonrise]

On 8/16/2020 at 1:15 PM, j hancock said:

Have fun with your new project.

1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2

Cold intake .016

Cold exhaust .026

Got her done, Thank You