danny123 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Hello, I have a 2006 Mack granite dump truck..is there anything I can do ( shocks, air bags...) To make it a more comfortable ride?!.. I used to have a sterling dump truck and is like night and day.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Yeah,come for a ride in my cl with 58 rears and then you'll think your truck rides like an old caddy..lol Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Cab shocks, and check to see if cab mounts are shot in the front. That's assuming the suspension is all in good shape . 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Is the cab suspension working correctly, I assume it has suspension on the cab Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny123 Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 Well I'm not very familiar with Mack trucks, but when is parked looks like is break in half?!.. the muffler pipe press against the the bed of the truck (is a dump truck).. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 sounds like the air valve for the cab air bags is bad/bent and keeping the air bags deflated. 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Sounds like the cab has air ride and the air bag for the cab isnt inflating Maybe a linkage has dropped off valve or the valve is fault Hop under the truck and look at the cab for a deflated air bag or bits missing or hanging Well walked the dog "Miss Molly" that is, my border collie While I was walking I thought I would quickly google air ride for CH Mack cabs And it appears that as I suspected CH Macks have a air ride cab Now the Granite you have I believe is based on a CH cab It should have air ride similar to this photo And it should ride pretty good when working The way describe that your truck is looking like its broken in half when parked would lead me to think the cab air ride isnt working at all So I would check the air bag shown in the middle of the picture to see that its inflated Paul 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny123 Posted August 23, 2020 Author Share Posted August 23, 2020 The little air bags deflates when truck is park...I don"t know if supposed to do that?! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Those pictures are of air ride cab air bags.....with NO air in them (lol) It looks like the link is still hooked to the valve, so why there's no air in them ??? could be the valve or a leak or air supply is restricted for some reason. Get bags that hold air and replace those shocks. The bushings suggest they're old and shot which means there's a really good chance the cab mounts are wiped out too. Correct those issues and you'll see instant improvement in the ride. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 if the bags deflate with engine shut off, you have a leak somewhere. if they stay deflated with engine running and air at 120lbs, there is a problem with the valve or link to the valve. 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Is air still getting to the bags at all or is there a crook valve, if air is getting there and a bag is blown or a hose is damaged, fix that As Mark T says "fix them and you'll see a instant improvement i ride" Paul 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldRedMack Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 The bags deflating overnight is nothing to worry about. What suspension does the truck have, are there flat spots on the tires, how long is it? We have 2 trucks with 44s and the 1 that is about 18" longer rides great, the other shorter truck empty feels like a bucking bronco. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny123 Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 Thank you guys to all that reply I really appreciate it!!.. I'm 23 not very experience like some of you guys..So the 2 small air bags and the 2 shocks is all the truck have for cab air ride..is that all I can change to make it ride better?! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 I would find the leak first. There may not be anything wrong with the air bags. Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny123 Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 Well the air bags only loose air when park and shut off for a while.. they look fully inflated when truck is running.. but still a rough ride.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeH Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 You should find where the air leak is. My '95 Mack cab airbags hold air for days. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeH Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 You should always tackle audible air leaks as soon as you notice them. An air leak can become serious enough that you lose your ability to regenerate air for your brakes. Last thing you need is to kill someone because you couldn't stop your truck. A 73,000 lb triaxle vs a 3500 lb car is no joke. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny123 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 Well it loose air after being park for a few hours..is not a big air leak.. I can't not even hear the air loosing.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny123 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 I'm guessing changing the shocks maybe improve the ride, they look bad.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeH Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, danny123 said: I'm guessing changing the shocks maybe improve the ride, they look bad.. It certainly won't hurt; describe what's "rough" about how the granite rides. Knowing how it feels tells us a lot. I had the dad of a guy I drove for take the front axle shock absorbers off my truck one night without telling me. After my back was killing me the next day I went into the office (and he was there eating his lunch) I made it pretty clear to leave the old shocks on until he has new ones to put on instead. IDK wtf he was thinking but I was a little pissed. Without shock absorbers, springs will continue to bounce for a while after one bump. Edited August 26, 2020 by JoeH 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny123 Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 Oh wow!.. that was bad.. well it feels like a lot bouncing around some how like a rough rocking chair.. and when hits about 35 mph front left tire feels like it has swelling or something up and down ( all the tires are new) Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeH Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 That'll be shock absorbers most likely. Cab ones, as well as probably the axle shocks. Worth it to just replace all to save your back. Also check your tire pressures up front, make sure they're the same. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny123 Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, JoeH said: That'll be shock absorbers most likely. Cab ones, as well as probably the axle shocks. Worth it to just replace all to save your back. Also check your tire pressures up front, make sure they're the same. Thank you!.. will do that this weekend.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-459624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack milling Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 I have a Mack granite 2002 when the front left tire hits a bump it hits hard like I lost a tire in a pot hole. Air pressure is good feels like there’s nothing supporting it . Is that a front shock issue if so is it hard to change? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-519280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Mack milling said: I have a Mack granite 2002 when the front left tire hits a bump it hits hard like I lost a tire in a pot hole. Air pressure is good feels like there’s nothing supporting it . Is that a front shock issue if so is it hard to change? If in doubt about shockers, just change them as they are pretty cheap and they do make quite a difference on the front axle Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/63810-better-ride/#findComment-519292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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