Jamaican Bulldog Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I remember with great fanfare when Mack launched the Vision. However a few years later the name of the same design was transitioned to CXU. The CH axle forward used to be called the the Pinnacle then they started using the CHU while some versions of the CXU also used the Pinnacle name. Does any one know why those names were changed on those trucks even though the design/styling stayed the same? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/68446-why-did-mack-change-from-using-the-vision-name-to-cxu-and-ch-pinnacle-to-chu-etc/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I may be wrong but I think it was the time when Volvo switched to use MP engines and Volvo chassis. Actually a different truck with Mack cab. So a reason became to change the model index also. Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/68446-why-did-mack-change-from-using-the-vision-name-to-cxu-and-ch-pinnacle-to-chu-etc/#findComment-481171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I think around '03, it changed.. look at the so-called Macks and notice 3 air tanks under the left side steps, also look at the Huck bolts in the frame and the location of the holes, Look at the frame rails and also, look at the air servo banks in the frame that control, susp/5th wheel/ power divider/// and so-on... to me that was all Volvo, infiltrating the Mack chassiss... im sure theres more, but i'm a bit slow today...:) jojo Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/68446-why-did-mack-change-from-using-the-vision-name-to-cxu-and-ch-pinnacle-to-chu-etc/#findComment-481175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
upsman Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 In 2008 the Vision became the Pinnacle the cab was slightly larger and the Mp engines and seventh injector regen came about for emissions. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/68446-why-did-mack-change-from-using-the-vision-name-to-cxu-and-ch-pinnacle-to-chu-etc/#findComment-481201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 24 minutes ago, upsman said: In 2008 the Vision became the Pinnacle the cab was slightly larger and the Mp engines and seventh injector regen came about for emissions. The seventh whats came about because of what ???? I'm completely lost here Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/68446-why-did-mack-change-from-using-the-vision-name-to-cxu-and-ch-pinnacle-to-chu-etc/#findComment-481202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post upsman Posted October 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 2:07 AM, mrsmackpaul said: The seventh whats came about because of what ???? I'm completely lost here Paul Seventh injector was for burning out dpf on exhaust. This was pre def. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/68446-why-did-mack-change-from-using-the-vision-name-to-cxu-and-ch-pinnacle-to-chu-etc/#findComment-481341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) 1999 CX Vision (original) CH (still available both set forward and back) 2003 CXN Vision Volvo frame ASET AC engine (CHN set forward steer axle) end of CH set back model 2007 CXP Pinnacle (MP7 only)no DPF Volvo frame, plus 4" cab new interior (CHN with ASET AC available) 2008 CXU MP7/MP8 DPF Volvo frame plus 4" cab (same for CHU set forward released) 2017 CHU in set forward Pinnacle only Anthem release Edited November 10, 2021 by bbigrig 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/68446-why-did-mack-change-from-using-the-vision-name-to-cxu-and-ch-pinnacle-to-chu-etc/#findComment-482685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaican Bulldog Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, bbigrig said: 1999 CX Vision (original) CH (still available both set forward and back) 2003 CXN Vision Volvo frame ASET AC engine (CHN set forward steer axle) end of CH set back model 2007 CXP Pinnacle (MP7 only)no DPF Volvo frame, plus 4" cab new interior (CHN with ASET AC available) 2008 CXU MP7/MP8 DPF Volvo frame plus 4" cab (same for CHU set forward released) 2017 CHU in set forward Pinnacle only Anthem release So it seems the change to Volvo frames influenced the name changes. I preferred the names Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/68446-why-did-mack-change-from-using-the-vision-name-to-cxu-and-ch-pinnacle-to-chu-etc/#findComment-482688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bullheaded Posted November 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2021 Marketing Department. Just like the auto makers they think they need to change everything every couple years. Me, I'd still be happy in a 1988 R Model today if I could still buy them. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/68446-why-did-mack-change-from-using-the-vision-name-to-cxu-and-ch-pinnacle-to-chu-etc/#findComment-482692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 11/10/2021 at 4:42 PM, Jamaican Bulldog said: So it seems the change to Volvo frames influenced the name changes. I preferred the names The Vision name never changed when the Volvo frame was introduced on Vision in 04. At the same time, the set forward CH name remained until CH was repowered with MP engines and became Pinnacle set forward (CHU) The Vision name changed to Pinnacle when the engine changed (MP) with a 4" larger cab, (to compensate for engine doghouse) and new interior. Pinnacle set forward and back remained until Anthem in 2017 Then (AN) Anthem became the set back highway chassis and set forward axle stayed as Pinnacle set forward (CHU) (Still a little confusing but hope this helps) 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/68446-why-did-mack-change-from-using-the-vision-name-to-cxu-and-ch-pinnacle-to-chu-etc/#findComment-482937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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