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On 3/7/2022 at 2:18 PM, 67RModel said:

How quickly everyone forgets history. In July 2008 the average cost of a gallon of 87 octane in the United States was $4.11. Adjusted for inflation that is $5.37/gallon in today's money. I'm sure we were all complaining how outrageous $4.11/gal was at the time, but the current prices aren't nearly as bad as they were in 2008....Although we could easily surpass $5.37/gal given the current geopolitical horseshit going on now.

I get it.  Still sucks.  Back then I was driving my 67 f100 and only got 9 mpg with a good tailwind.  I parked it and got an Escort from a buddy for cheap.  Survived the next few years in it til it rotted away and found another pickup because fuel was reasonable again.

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Larry

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no disagreement the prices are bad, the aggravating issue is there is no reason for it other then corporate greed. at the expense of many the bonus check for  CEO of pfizer is $$$$. same with the oil co's. things are done today same as yrs back. the stock market crash of '29 was intentional. how  the rich  made themselves richer; make the poor people poorer. i don't do the political  crap; can't stand the present day clown in DC, sad part is he's only a puppet . john kennedy tried to do things his way; we all know how that turned out. 

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$3.999 this am at costco for regular. 

$4.45 per gallon at wawa 1/2 mile down the road. 

i am afraid to look at diesel cost. 

 

the idiots want all electric. 

ok, we will look at commifornia, the shining star of wind/solar energy and electric cars. 

they are only allowed to charge for 1 hour per day. 

and have rolling blackouts because the wind and solar power grid can not handle the load. 

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when you are up to your armpits in alligators,

it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp..

You know I ran down to Los Angeles for a number of years I don’t go there now but as far as one year ago I was still driving there and believe it or not and that area you hardly see any electric cars but apparently politicians don’t realize not that they realize anything but the people do not want electric cars And yes me and the wife are always disgussing  that same issue electric plants cannot handle what they already have as soon as summer hits what do you hear on the news everybody needs to keep their air conditioners turned down we’re running out of juice

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9 hours ago, mechohaulic said:

no disagreement the prices are bad, the aggravating issue is there is no reason for it other then corporate greed. at the expense of many the bonus check for  CEO of pfizer is $$$$. same with the oil co's. things are done today same as yrs back. the stock market crash of '29 was intentional. how  the rich  made themselves richer; make the poor people poorer. i don't do the political  crap; can't stand the present day clown in DC, sad part is he's only a puppet . john kennedy tried to do things his way; we all know how that turned out. 

you know this is a little off the subject....but years ago i ran with a wonderbread driver everynight,,,and he was telling me when the company was in bankrupcy court the CEOs awarding themselves with unearned bonuses at the same time as the company was on its last legs....just goes to show one,,,some of these jokers dont miss a trick....world fall into hard times theres always somebody cleaning up....thats not even affected to begin with....like wow man...bob

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as with the gas "shortage" of the '70's  , gas is now jumping up by dollars a week, in a short time the news will say how gas prices finally coming down , 5-10 cents  a month. never drops at the rate it rises. in the past, there was a fire/ explosion at a refinery   "gas has to go up" now there's a cyber attack in texas "gas has to go up" , all someone has to do is close the valve and call it a cyber attack. country is in a heep of sh=t.

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Its very easy to sit back in an arm chair and declare the President is a moron and is intent on destroying the very country he has lived in and benefitted from his entire life. The man is honestly a senile old man with onset dementia, who was well past his prime before he was Obama's vice president.  I don't much care for his platform or political beliefs either, and in no way whatsoever helped him (or his oxygen thief Vice President) to get elected. With that being said he has thus far been making the right calls with respect to the Russian invasion of Ukraine all things considered. Given the fact Russia possesses and has nuclear weapons deployed, and that Putin is a deranged psychopath, the best strategy is to economically sanction Russia to the point where their economy implodes from within, which its well on the way of doing. Life for the average Russian citizen is going to get heinously bad and Putin's base will eventually turn on him. Along with incredibly harsh sanctions, providing money and aid to Ukraine to continue fighting is also the correct move. Biden also appears to be doing his best to not get the US or other NATO countries involved militarily as can be seen by denying to get involved with Poland's fighter jet nonsense. There are many other examples if you choose to investigate. So however seemingly insignificant banning Russian oil imports to the US may seem, any effort to isolate and starve out Putin's economy is worth it and will in fact "punish" the Russian economy, and in my opinion not laughable. Its one card in Biden's hand that was played correctly. However, this will piss a lot of American's off because it will contribute to higher prices at the pump. Just about every major Western European county is making plans to stop or at least start cutting back on buying Russian energy. The resolve and collaboration of the Western countries as well as private companies worldwide going all in to eliminate Russia from the world economy is unprecedented and was a very bad miscalculation by Putin.

As far as Biden somehow hampering oil and gas production domestically, its simply not true. Remember I don't particularly care for the guy either. Oil and gas producers are free to explore for and extract as much oil as they like. Collectively they literally have thousands of untapped leases approved for drilling and extraction. It just has not been economically viable to do so until very recently. I suspect that since oil is trading for greater than $120.00/bbl right now you will start to see more domestic production start to ramp up. But it will probably be gradual because the producers are going to be cautious as to what plays out with Russia. Also for the record: THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS THE LARGEST OIL AND GAS PRODUCER IN THE WORLD. Read it again. We produce the most oil and gas in the world followed by Saudi Arabia then Russia. It gets sold on the global commodities market to whoever is willing to pay the most for it. It doesn't necessarily get sold domestically and refined into gasoline and given to the Texaco down the street so American's can have cheap gas for eternity. Sorry its just not the way they system works like it or not.

Sorry for the long winded reply / rant, but I'm just trying to intelligently contribute the best way I know how. Also, not every single thing a politician on the other side of the isle from you does is automatically a disastrously horrible thing.

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i dont know man this joker is back to the same old politician ways fill the seat collect the big checks and do nothing....the other guy was constantly working with no pay and constantly fighting with the other side for doing so....bob

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26 minutes ago, tjc transport said:

but he mad mean tweets, so he had to go.

He had to go because for whatever reason he irritated too many Independents and centrist Republicans. Most importantly too many people grew tired of and were pissed about left wing, State enacted Covid19 policies he had nothing to do with, and took their frustrations out on him at election time. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Just now, 67RModel said:

He had to go because for whatever reason he irritated too many Independents and centrist Republicans. Most importantly too many people grew tired of and were pissed about left wing, State enacted Covid19 policies he had nothing to do with, and took their frustrations out on him at election time. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

yup. 

so instead they put a brain dead racist bigot pedophile idiot that did absolutely nothing in 47 years of government service and a kneepad wearing racist bigot that both said if you elect us we will ruin the country. 

but they did not care, because orange man and mean tweets bad.

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when you are up to your armpits in alligators,

it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp..

The corruption amongst those in power is sickening. Look on the bright side, when oil companies make enough off all this to pay more to get their way ??? All the " green " BS will calm down for a while. 

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