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[Joey Mack]

Here are some old tools that I have had for 23+ years..  I believe they are runout tools for E-6 fly wheel housings..  Was hoping there was a 'jig' to cut fire ring grooves in Mack heads..  there was a bunch of cutters in the box.  they are set aside.. 

Mech, I was hoping you can I.D. these old tools..  

[mrsmackpaul]

I have a huge amount of stuff like this for IH 86 and 76 series farm tractors I have made for splitting them in three for working on them

For me that is huge job but made easier by the special bits and pieces that hold things in place 

From a few years ago now, tractor dropped low range and every last bit had to come out of the back end to just a housing sitting there

For me this is a huge job, gotta remember I'm no mechanic and totally self taught, but just poke along using common sense 

You need to hold gears in place in the trans mission while the shafts slide apart when splitting the tractor, and keep it square and even

The D7 beside the tractor had a cracked head and was out of action for a while as Cat D8800 heads are pretty thin on the ground these days

 

Paul

[mechohaulic]

On 12/24/2023 at 2:51 PM, Joey Mack said:

Here are some old tools that I have had for 23+ years..  I believe they are runout tools for E-6 fly wheel housings..  Was hoping there was a 'jig' to cut fire ring grooves in Mack heads..  there was a bunch of cutters in the box.  they are set aside.. 

Mech, I was hoping you can I.D. these old tools..  

apologize for delayed response.  I've enlarged/studied , can say possible === . can't confirm actual usage. checking bell housing run out was a tool having a dial indicator fixed to it connected to crank shaft and spun. I can see how the individual parts are related to each other terms of using. spare dowel pins top right . flat bar with center hole back in the day may have been used for top of sleeve puller.  3 bottom round "pipes" used for different diameter holes in crankshaft not having a bearing ??? very faint part numbers on one . don't recall a grove cutter having this stuff. keep the tools soaking in some oil;;WHEN I drive down to see my sister and some BMT members ,remind me to check that stuff out up close. 

[mechohaulic]

one number looks to be 2T302?? other tool 81 106 or its an ST 106 

[Joey Mack]

I didnt look at any numbers..  I was thinking about blasting them and then wipe them with varsol.. and putting them in a clean box. 

[mechohaulic]

those pieces are what a mechanic considers a fantastic "cross word puzzle". so many pieces and a challenge swapping them around till results are :: THAT'S HOW THEY GO  !!! 

[Joey Mack]

Alright Mechaholic......    This ones for you..  Here are some of my home made tools.  I have used them many times..   See some of us arent fancy pants..    By the way,  ALL of my 7 torque wrenches are ''click type''  not digital, with a beeper..   

Any guess's as to which tool is the best one??     She's polishing the crank journals for me. 

[Joey Mack]

Here is a couple pics of the PAI engine kits that I use..  Much better than a Mack Kit..  

[MACKS]

Hey Joey,speaking of home made tools,what do I need to tighten the two inside bolts on a Mack 58000 rear,I’ve done it before years back but not sure if I had to bend a wrench or breaker bar to get it done,Thanks

[Joey Mack]

7/8'' 12 point  bone wrench..  a home made one is just fine..  cut the box end off of a wrench and weld a 1/2'' drive socket to the cut end, and then you can use a 1/2'' drive breaker bar to get it done..  I think the torque is about 175 lbft..  

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[MACKS]

58 minutes ago, Joey Mack said:

7/8'' 12 point  bone wrench..  a home made one is just fine..  cut the box end off of a wrench and weld a 1/2'' drive socket to the cut end, and then you can use a 1/2'' drive breaker bar to get it done..  I think the torque is about 175 lbft..  

Great,thanks..

 

[Joey Mack]

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[tjc transport]

i have a bunch of home made tools out in the boxes too. 

fan clutch nut wrench for fords is a piece of 1/2 bar stock cut for a 4 flat fit.

02 sensor and oil pressure/ temp sensor sockets are impact sockets with one flat cut out. 

i have 2 9/16 open/box wrenches bent 180 to fit behind cowls for stack clamps.

also a 90° adaptor for a 4 1/2 grinder for getting into real tight places where the machine will not fit. i took an adaptor for a 1/2 inch drill and modified it to fit the grinder.

took a pair of pliers and modified them to fit up under the cowl of 90's gm cars to remove the clamps off heater hoses.

those are just a few off the top of my head.

[mechohaulic]

5 hours ago, Joey Mack said:

Alright Mechaholic......    This ones for you..  Here are some of my home made tools.  I have used them many times..   See some of us arent fancy pants..    By the way,  ALL of my 7 torque wrenches are ''click type''  not digital, with a beeper..   

Any guess's as to which tool is the best one??     She's polishing the crank journals for me. 

unique the spring pin shackle set up. I have/had similar  setup on liner hold downs used for wet sleeve DD . 3 flat washer brazed together  looked like rear view of maxi transmission counter shafts. one bolt the washers held two liners down. relooking at picture two -thought that was a liner tool not a liner with rod welded in middle. are those liners that short now or angle of picture. "new "liners don't go full length of cyl anymore ??? changing times.

[Joey Mack]

i cut a liner short so that i can pull it out with ease..  works like a charm..  I set 6 liners today .. all within .001'' per bank..  

The shackle is my home made 'sled gauge'..  I check liner height with it..  

[GA_Dave]

On 12/24/2023 at 2:51 PM, Joey Mack said:

Here are some old tools that I have had for 23+ years.. 

 

Most of my tools are old......

 

I don't have much in the way of specialized tools, but I have a plasma cutter, a hi-lift jack and a BFH! 

[other dog]

9 hours ago, GA_Dave said:

Most of my tools are old......

 

I don't have much in the way of specialized tools, but I have a plasma cutter, a hi-lift jack and a BFH! 

One of my earliest tool memories is hearing that a BFH and a long handle punch were two of the most important tools to have.

[mowerman]

11 hours ago, GA_Dave said:

Most of my tools are old......

 

I don't have much in the way of specialized tools, but I have a plasma cutter, a hi-lift jack and a BFH! 

I’ve got wrenches I bought when I was 16

[mechohaulic]

2 hours ago, other dog said:

One of my earliest tool memories is hearing that a BFH and a long handle punch were two of the most important tools to have.

those are actually 2 parts of a three-piece  tool set. there is also a heavy duty pair of vice grips  which hold the long handle punch when the BFH misses the punch. LOL

[mowerman]

20 hours ago, Joey Mack said:

Alright Mechaholic......    This ones for you..  Here are some of my home made tools.  I have used them many times..   See some of us arent fancy pants..    By the way,  ALL of my 7 torque wrenches are ''click type''  not digital, with a beeper..   

Any guess's as to which tool is the best one??     She's polishing the crank journals for me. 

God lover, my wife gets poofy  when I just call her to come  out to hold something once in a great while can’t you call one of your friends for this shit no they’re all asleep ha ha They are all overnight, freight drivers

[Joey Mack]

Well, I made the best of my 3 day weekend..  5 hours each day in the shop.  the engine is clean, primered, the liners are in, and the crank is in and done.. I sorted out the old parts from the good parts, and prepped a set of connecting rods. I need to get 4 new deck dowels, and a buttress bolt from Mack tomorrow, so I can load pistons and install the heads.. 

 

Thanks for reading my post guys,,  I know it's not super exciting, but I figure someone may see something they need to know, or offer advice to me..     Jojo

[mechohaulic]

1 hour ago, Joey Mack said:

Well, I made the best of my 3 day weekend..  5 hours each day in the shop.  the engine is clean, primered, the liners are in, and the crank is in and done.. I sorted out the old parts from the good parts, and prepped a set of connecting rods. I need to get 4 new deck dowels, and a buttress bolt from Mack tomorrow, so I can load pistons and install the heads.. 

 

Thanks for reading my post guys,,  I know it's not super exciting, but I figure someone may see something they need to know, or offer advice to me..     Jojo

what kind of comment is """it's not super exciting "" !! only thing more exciting is hearing those engines run.. #2 = I need to know your paying hourly rate. I know I'm alot slower now  but working in a clean shop building engines '' I'm in. LOL

[Joey Mack]

You crack me up Mech..  If we were closer, I would be proud to have you in my shop.  Hourly rate??  not sure,,  would $25/hr cash be too little??      I dont charge too much to build them.  Typically my customer buys the parts per my request, then if the engine is in the truck, my labor is $5,000.00..  if its and ASET-C in-frame I add $500.00 more.  Out of the truck and in my shop, it's $4,000.00 for labor, and if the wire harness needs to be repaired, it's $50/hr plus materials for that additional repair.. 

 Basically, I can build a Mack E-Tech/ ASET/ or E-7.  For around $15,000.00.  new heads raise the price, based on market price,  Turbo's, are decided on early in the job, 

[Joey Mack]

Here is a sample of a finished engine from my shop..  I know it may look like a 'Rattle can rebuild',  but trust me, I spend a lot of time cleaning and measuring as I tear down, and as I re-build..  I also made all the lines accept for the Jake Brake oil lines. 

[Joey Mack]

Well, I had a few hours to get back on the ENDT 673..  Did some blasting and priming.  I also tried to fix the brass coolant pipe. It was dented pretty good, and had a slight bend in it.  I got lucky,  a piece of fence pipe was enough to rough in the round shape, and then I used a wrist pin from a John Deere 3179DF engine to finish it..  The wrist pin was a perfect fit..  I couldnt get it perfect, but I also didnt want to knock a hole or crack in the pipe, so I stooped here..