doubleclutchinweasel Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 22 minutes ago, tjc transport said: i fondly remember trying to start off on a grade at 214,000 lbs in the B-815. 325 hp V8 and quad box. you needed 3 feet and 4 hands to take off and shift to get going. when the trans finally died with the owners son driving it, they installed a spare that was in the shed with short sticks to keep crap out of the trans. the knobs were only 3 inches off the towers, so i was able to shift it one handed after convincing them to leave them in instead of putting the big sticks in. since we were the only two that drove the truck, the mechanic agreed to leave the short sticks in it. that ALMOST made that truck a pleasure to drive. . Some of our trucks had the shifters cut down to various lengths and had the shanks heated and bent in various ways. You really could do a lot to make them easier (or harder) to shift with the shape of the levers. 2 Quote "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, mowerman said: Holy shit I expect with that situation you needed to use all the gears I have never heard of a B model with a V-8 They sold them V8 B models new here with a Mack V8 and with a 8V71 GM Both had the quad box, both had the big aluminium radiator and both looked the same But they both sounded very different 🤪 Paul 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 I believe we all saw a video clip a while back on here B model with a Detroit I don’t know if it was an 8V But it probably was Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Onyx610 Posted March 29, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) So not to change the subject, but I was looking for this companies trucks that I have seen around all with two stroke Detroit’s. Since you guys were talking about those engines. I did happen to find this on their YouTube channel. It’s pretty interesting. Give it some time…. Edited March 29, 2022 by Onyx610 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, mowerman said: Holy shit I expect with that situation you needed to use all the gears I have never heard of a B model with a V-8 yea buddy. needed all 20 gears, plus another 20 to go up good size hills.😁 actually it was not that bad due to the very low gearing. truck had a top speed of 42 MPH. so i usually skip shifted on flats and only used full gear pattern on hills at low speed. when he sold that truck we replaced it with a 74 DM800 dump truck that tipped over and tweaked the frame when a hinge pin came out while dumping. we fixed it, but it would not dump straight so we pulled the box off and put a 75 ton fifth wheel on it. 237 with twin stick 5 speed. that one had a top speed of 54 MPH. i ran that until i left in 95. the new company bought me an almost new 94 RD688with 400 and 13 speed. ran that one for ten years until a guy took it out in 05 and dead center sucker punched a 4 foot diameter oak tree and pushed the engine back 4 foot. we figured he was doing at least 50 in a 25 zone when he left the road. they replaced that one with a 2005 CV613 Granite with detuned 400 and 8ll. total piece of junk because they would not turn it up. i left them in 2010 when i saw the writing on the wall they were going down due to federal charges. 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 19 minutes ago, Onyx610 said: So not to change the subject, but I was looking for this companies trucks that I have seen around all with two stroke Detroit’s. Since you guys were talking about those engines. I did happen to find this on their YouTube channel. It’s pretty interesting. Give it some time…. very cool video Onyx. thanks for posting it! 👍 1 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) You musta been pissing yourself driving that RD with all that power and gears…… and yes video was way cool thanks for sharing… a little long but I’ve got nothing but time for the next 3 weeks…. Bob Edited March 29, 2022 by mowerman Misspelled Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 it was a sweet ride compared to the 237. i put close to 750,000 miles on it in the 10 years i ran it. still ran good to when it got wrecked. only thing it needed in those 10 years was a water pump, 2 sets of brakes, and the trans was giving me issues. the new trans was in it for under 1000 miles when it got wrecked and split the trans case in half. also ruined the block on impact when it drove the water pump into #1 cylinder. Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Yes I can appreciate that because I went from a 237 to a 350 Man what a difference especially pulling hills too bad about the wreck…. Bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Onyx610 said: So not to change the subject, but I was looking for this companies trucks that I have seen around all with two stroke Detroit’s. Since you guys were talking about those engines. I did happen to find this on their YouTube channel. It’s pretty interesting. Give it some time…. There's NO WAY anyone could ever say THANK YOU enough to people like those who had the interest in saving a valuable part of history not for the making of $$$$ , but in saving the past. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Would this be what I have seen referred to as a baby quad it looks like a quad box and is it a step up from a triplex Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 2 hours ago, mrsmackpaul said: They sold them V8 B models new here with a Mack V8 and with a 8V71 GM Both had the quad box, both had the big aluminium radiator and both looked the same But they both sounded very different 🤪 Paul when you want to get away from the TV crap; as always Youtube has some fun stuff. punch in --- shifting a Mack quad. one is a B81 ; of course some are good ; some aren't. if memory is correct ; a B815 has the V-8 .. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Yes I was just checking out a GMC with a Jimmy on YouTube thanks for the tip I’ll check it out…. Oh by the way l Don’t know what a mini quad is I thought it was something with four big tires that mostly kids ride haha 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 25 minutes ago, D-Day said: Would this be what I have seen referred to as a baby quad it looks like a quad box and is it a step up from a triplex I've been staring at that pattern for some time now. 1- can't recall ever seeing a 14 ;; 2= minus 5th lo which would give the 14, it states lo-lo NOT a splitter. 1st lo-lo only?? that would take out 3-4 more moves . how14?? like the 6 speed twin stick maxi low for first only was "made into a10 speed by many Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 yup b81 mack 6 cylinder. b813 cummins engine. b815 mack V8 i don't remember what the designation is for a detroit engine Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, mowerman said: Yes I was just checking out a GMC with a Jimmy on YouTube thanks for the tip I’ll check it out…. Oh by the way l Don’t know what a mini quad is I thought it was something with four big tires that mostly kids ride haha i have heard the term mini -quad used in yrs past. at the farm i've been hanging out at; supposed to be getting a B81sx up and running there. out back with lots of other stuff is a mack trans. i t's a small twin stick . tried to clean off data plate section for numbers didn't come clean enough. complete trans with mounts. took some pictures a while back. can try and up load. back section had a repair . will talk with owner and find out his plans before it's scrapped . 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, mechohaulic said: I've been staring at that pattern for some time now. 1- can't recall ever seeing a 14 ;; 2= minus 5th lo which would give the 14, it states lo-lo NOT a splitter. 1st lo-lo only?? that would take out 3-4 more moves . how14?? like the 6 speed twin stick maxi low for first only was "made into a10 speed by many Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 It's in this D M 607 unfortunately the rest of the truck is in bad shape pretty much a parts donor 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 I’ve got the rocker panel assembly for those if anybody buys it and needs it left side I’ve been meaning to put it up for sale on here just haven’t got around to it I bought it years ago for a project that I changed my mind on still have it in my garage 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Also a driver‘s door that’s been bondoed no rot but the door would be a fortune to ship Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, mechohaulic said: i have heard the term mini -quad used in yrs past. at the farm i've been hanging out at; supposed to be getting a B81sx up and running there. out back with lots of other stuff is a mack trans. i t's a small twin stick . tried to clean off data plate section for numbers didn't come clean enough. complete trans with mounts. took some pictures a while back. can try and up load. back section had a repair . will talk with owner and find out his plans before it's scrapped . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 one picture Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, D-Day said: It's in this D M 607 unfortunately the rest of the truck is in bad shape pretty much a parts donor the DM800 along with it's "older brother " the B81 will always be a favorite . the steel nose 600 is a close "cousin" . the steel nose 600's back in the day have also been called other names when twisting upside down trying to remove items such as starters. LOL . that orange one must be up in age late 60's=early 70's being a 607 (sx)? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Yes I put an air starter in mine long long time ago and it was a real bitch I mentioned it before I was only 39 when I put it in at 65 I don’t think I could take it out ha ha 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Yes you’re really can’t get to it from inside or outside the cab Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/10/#findComment-493700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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