Joey Mack Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Onyx,,,, You are SO FULL OF $HIT !!! Luv u Bro... 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Seems I just saw something like that on the news google Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Still confused how Mrs. Mack Paul can put down three hours of video at a time, and I still have trouble with photographs, never mind video clips I could not post them at all freight train says I have to go through YouTube and you have to open account all that bullshit seems like a lot of work then you have a whole world we’re looking at your stuff not sure if that’s what I’m looking for .. Bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Well I tried to send a happier summer photo won’t go… sorry guys… Bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Bob,,, Does the air start still work? I like it.. It's plenty.... Hell it hasnt been crushed and turned into Kia's... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I was behind an electric Ford lightning at a stop light the other day. The chassis looks crazy. The back suspension are these insanely large aluminum A arms and there is a CV shaft going to each wheel end. No conventional differential and solid rear axle. It seemed like it sat a lot higher than a regular f150 but I’m not sure. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted January 3, 2023 Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 I believe all electric vehicles have 4 independent drive motors so a solid axle would be hard to do and not the best option. Those massive a-arms are pry aluminum and help house those massive drive motors. Idk? All a guess to me…. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 2 hours ago, 67RModel said: I am building a "shop built" generator. Below is the power source. Its a clone of a Lister CS single cylinder diesel. Its rated at 8hp at 650 rpm. I will be turning a 6kW Allis Chalmers generator head originally meant to be driven off the belt pulley of a tractor. Its a 4 pole head so I will need to speed it up to 1800rpm for 60hz power. Its all really just a fun fabrication and design project. I will have an insane amount of money into it just to put out a measly 6kW. And it wont be all practical since it will be so heavy and stationary. I think the bare engine is around 1100 pounds. I figure another 1000 pounds or so for the I-beam skid I am going to build and the generator head. For standby power now I have a little vintage 3500 watt Kohler with a Briggs engine on it that puts out 220V I can back feed my panel with enough to run my natural gas furnace, the refrigerator and a few lights. I also have the coal stove and a variety of old wood stoves for heat if things get real bad. That will last forever & a day..!!! I've Got a 1926 Lister Petrol Motor (The Crankcase,Flywheels ect Look Indentical to That) That I drive My Sawbench with & cut All our Firewood with..! Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Hayseed said: That will last forever & a day..!!! I've Got a 1926 Lister Petrol Motor (The Crankcase,Flywheels ect Look Indentical to That) That I drive My Sawbench with & cut All our Firewood with..! Ahhh the perks of being a British colony. Old lister engines probably everywhere down there. Sadly they were never really common here. Then India cloned them. The quality of the the clones is shotty at best. They need completely torn down, and cleaned of casting sand and reassembled before they can be run. Our EPA banned the importing of them a while back and you don’t hardly see any at all now. Some people try to sneak them in as “air compressors” with the injection pump removed but I think the customs people are wise to that now. They are certainly a unique engine. If you know then you know….. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 2 hours ago, mowerman said: OK I think I was damn lucky to get this one down loaded enjoy fellas it’s not much…. Bob You gotta get it finished by June of 2027. I just got the latest ATHS magazine the other day and they are saying the national convention show for 2027 is going to be in Reno, NV. June 10-12…..right in your back yard 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 20 minutes ago, 67RModel said: Ahhh the perks of being a British colony. Old lister engines probably everywhere down there. Sadly they were never really common here. Then India cloned them. The quality of the the clones is shotty at best. They need completely torn down, and cleaned of casting sand and reassembled before they can be run. Our EPA banned the importing of them a while back and you don’t hardly see any at all now. Some people try to sneak them in as “air compressors” with the injection pump removed but I think the customs people are wise to that now. They are certainly a unique engine. If you know then you know….. India is a good source of Parts for them, Though they won't let you bring in Headgaskets anymore 'cause they contain asbestos..!! Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 i have an assortment of gensets. a 2400watt yamaha inverter. for away from home use. it is so quiet you can have a conversation with it running at your feet. a 5000 watt generac someone gave me not running. it likes to break a valve retainer and loose compression so i do not depend on it. a 1954 onan 10CCKB 3600rpm screamer. 10,000 watt. a miller bobcat 250 welder that is also 10,000 watt generator. and an onan 15jc 10,000 watt natural gas unit connected directly to the house with an automatic transfer switch. i always recommend getting a generator larger than what you thing you will need by at least 50% if you think you will need 5,000 watts, get a 7,500 or 10,000 watt unit Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Thanks for all your input fellas and Joey the air starter system I put in.myself 27 years ago? Is all still in good working condition which floors me but yes, as old as all the parts are at holds air for about two months drops around 30 pounds…. It was originally electric start I was having trouble trying to get it started decided to get rid of the whole deal and go air … we’ll back to the old grind… Bob 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 The Indian Listers, were called Metex for a while in Australia and then Field Marshall like the Pomy tractors, they were a good enough copy They missed out on the CS (cold start) head and chrome bore so could be a bugger to start when they get a bit of age on them A mate had them on his farm, I have only ever had CS Listers, singles and twins I wonder how it goes with the drum (barrel) of water for cooling in places that get bellow freezing for long periods They are surprisingly quiet for a big single cylinder diesel and I always felt the power rating was very conservitive My mate put a flex plate and starter motor off a car on his Metex copies and apart from a blown head gasket gave many decades of good service Paul 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I have little knowledge on listers, however, I used to operate a lot of early 90's Moffett Mounty's that had Lister Peter engines.. they seemed to be pretty good... They sure did rattle a lot when running. I believe they had one head per cylinder, which I liked.. The Moffett that I own has a Mitsubishi diesel, and mine is also a 1989 model.. Well, that's all I got.. jojo Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, mrsmackpaul said: I wonder how it goes with the drum (barrel) of water for cooling in places that get bellow freezing for long periods I plan to use a thermosiphon radiator off of an old John Deere LUC power unit with a cooling fan driven off the engine flywheels. The cooling fan will blow across the radiator much like a vehicle's cooling system. It will take some trial and error / testing once I have it up and running to see what kind of load I can keep cool and for how long. I don't think it will be a problem with a 6kW load, which is all my generator head can supply. I believe the LUC engine was rated at 16hp so I should have plenty of cooling with its radiator in this application. Of course I will be using a 50/50 glycol / water mix to prevent freezing. Edited January 3, 2023 by 67RModel 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) And yes the CS clones that are here in the sates go by many names, Metro, Field Marshall, DES, GTS, Powerline, and many others. From my understanding the "brand" is more or less the assembler and/or exporter. I think there are many workshops in Pune, India that assemble them for anybody and everybody with little to no difference between them. They are just copies of the original CS Listers manufactured in Dursley England. Edited January 3, 2023 by 67RModel Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/2/2023 at 6:28 PM, 67RModel said: You gotta get it finished by June of 2027. I just got the latest ATHS magazine the other day and they are saying the national convention show for 2027 is going to be in Reno, NV. June 10-12…..right in your back yard I’ve seen it here twice so far here’s hoping that should be enough to get in pretty good shape maybe drive it out of my yard with brand new paint before I die bucket list for sure.. Bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hayseed Posted January 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2023 4 hours ago, mowerman said: I’ve seen it here twice so far here’s hoping that should be enough to get in pretty good shape maybe drive it out of my yard with brand new paint before I die bucket list for sure.. Bob Don't worry 'bout the paint Bob, They're only Original Once.... Get It running, Get It Roadworthy, Get It Rego'd & get out & enjoy It..!! 3 Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Well, my plan is too straighted and print everything separately so perhaps some of it will be painted and some of it won’t how does that sound? See any reason why I won’t be there with that. Thanks for the inspiration bud….. bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I was supposed to hook up with Farmer52 last time I was here I never did see him I don’t know how I missed him. I wasn’t there long only walked around in about half hour. Bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Hell I only drove it on the road once when I first bought it I drove it home 30 miles from here. Be exciting to get in it and go through the gears it was originally a dump truck when I bought it… Bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I've got an Onan 4k rv unit hanging on the B for trailer power. I never have got a cord made up to backfeed the house for the day I might need it. I wouldn't mind finding something a bit larger for permanent house duty. The 4k does well enough for the trailer a/c or microwave. The motor runs okay, but being a 1978 model, it does use oil a touch. Love to rebuild it but likely too costly and better off getting a cheapie Harbor fraud model like everyone else? Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Freight train,,. For what it's worth, I have several predator engines, and all of them start and run really good.. I have a 7500w generator with the 420 predator engine.. it runs my house very good. I can go to bed at night knowing it will stay running.. They are around $800.00 with today's pricing.. I paid $600.00,, 5 years ago.. jojo 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/50/#findComment-519971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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