fjh Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 17 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: Yes sir.. today's price for a target is $300.00.. Criminal ! one 7018 welding rod 50 cents / one 6 inch by six inch piece of 1/4 inch plexi maybe 3 dollars Plus 3 dollar 100% mark up ! Worth 6 bucks! In materials Bit of sweat equity for etching ! 50 dollars would be reasonable ! $300 Not so much! We should go into business making these we could clean up sell for 99.99 ! You could retire from building engines! Become a door to door piston squirter aimer salesman! 🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 36 minutes ago, fjh said: Criminal ! one 7018 welding rod 50 cents / one 6 inch by six inch piece of 1/4 inch plexi maybe 3 dollars Plus 3 dollar 100% mark up ! Worth 6 bucks! In materials Bit of sweat equity for etching ! 50 dollars would be reasonable ! $300 Not so much! We should go into business making these we could clean up sell for 99.99 ! You could retire from building engines! Become a door to door piston squirter aimer salesman! 🤣 F, you're approaching it all wrong. You guys need that Vince guy that used to sell the Sham Wow to be the salesman. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fjh Posted February 5 Popular Post Share Posted February 5 5 minutes ago, Mark T said: F, you're approaching it all wrong. You guys need that Vince guy that used to sell the Sham Wow to be the salesman. wouldn't want to pay a middle man ! Me and Joey want to clean up! Make the big Bucks! He wants to retire ! 😁 1 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Sorry Mark,, But My Great White Northern Buddy gets my vote, ehh😜 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Speaking of piston cooling nozzles, I didn't see any in the ENDT 673 that I have.. I even looked again yesterday.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 21 hours ago, Joey Mack said: Speaking of piston cooling nozzles, I didn't see any in the ENDT 673 that I have.. I even looked again yesterday.. Piston cooling probably started as they were thinking on adding more ponys to the build, morphing up to the 237- 285- 315 I know when they went to 350 they added steel webs between the main caps ! Just before they started using the 4 valve head! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joey Mack Posted February 6 Popular Post Share Posted February 6 Just need to get this tension off my chest. I just called my local Mack parts Dealer and asked for an offset cam key for an E-Tech.. The line went quiet, and then I hear, uhhh we don't have anything like that here. Then he says, we are a Mack dealer sir.. My blood pressure went up instantly.. I said,,,,,, AN E-TECH IS A MACK ENGINE... Anyway, I feel better now... Thanks, Jojo 2 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 How did they reply to it being a Mack engine? "Oh I mean we are a Volvo dealer"? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Joey Mack said: Just need to get this tension off my chest. I just called my local Mack parts Dealer and asked for an offset cam key for an E-Tech.. The line went quiet, and then I hear, uhhh we don't have anything like that here. Then he says, we are a Mack dealer sir.. My blood pressure went up instantly.. I said,,,,,, AN E-TECH IS A MACK ENGINE... Anyway, I feel better now... Thanks, Jojo go outside, and beat your head against a concrete block wall repeatedly for about 10 minutes. you will fell betterrer, i promise. 1 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Did you tell him your pronouns..... or think to ask them/their pronouns ? Did you at leaast end the call with the phrase " have a great rest of your day " ? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 It was hard to speak and grind my teeth at the same time... I called back and got my regular guy.. all good then, of course Mack is out of stock, and so is PAI... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Geoff,, there was dead air on the phone. What also got me was that he was sure they didnt sell that part, and didnt even ask a co-worker or the manager to help him help me.. No concern for serving the customer... Young'ns have no clue how to ''serve'' folks.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 38 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: Geoff,, there was dead air on the phone. What also got me was that he was sure they didnt sell that part, and didnt even ask a co-worker or the manager to help him help me.. No concern for serving the customer... Young'ns have no clue how to ''serve'' folks.. amen bro absolutely no clue! No work ethic ! May have to make your own offset key 😂! Volvo Turds want the old stuff to die so they can sell more junk to people! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 I dug through all my small Mack parts and only found 2 straight keys.. This is how they get us.. Make essential small parts obsolete. I wish I had a crystal ball 10 + years ago.. I may have bought a few of them, as well as other smalls.. Mack's price is $85.00.. I saw a PAI version for $103.00.. None in stock.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 I've made friends with a good small machine shop, He can make just about anything as long as it doesn't need a annealing oven to ether harden or anneal. His prices are too low for the work he does, and I always throw a few bucks extra when I pay him. Worth it to me. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 15 hours ago, Joey Mack said: I dug through all my small Mack parts and only found 2 straight keys.. This is how they get us.. Make essential small parts obsolete. I wish I had a crystal ball 10 + years ago.. I may have bought a few of them, as well as other smalls.. Mack's price is $85.00.. I saw a PAI version for $103.00.. None in stock.. I used to squirrel away various parts in my tool box bottom drawer that our parts guys seemed to have a hard time getting saving them from rebuild kits ect, Trunnion inner washers was a common save as not every job was worth using them! 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I have a Jabobs svc kit withe enough parts to rebuild 2 Jake heads.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 19 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: I have a Jabobs svc kit withe enough parts to rebuild 2 Jake heads.. Injector orings was another one I used to horde them when V8s were popular! We did head gaskets by the dozen for several years till they finally got a good handle on the gasket issue! 😁 I tend to pack rat stuff anyway, Might need that some day ! You know!🙄 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 On 2/6/2024 at 5:51 PM, Joey Mack said: I dug through all my small Mack parts and only found 2 straight keys.. This is how they get us.. Make essential small parts obsolete. I wish I had a crystal ball 10 + years ago.. I may have bought a few of them, as well as other smalls.. Mack's price is $85.00.. I saw a PAI version for $103.00.. None in stock.. This has nothing to do with your parts issue, but as for the crystal ball- I've said many times that if I knew then what I know now I'd have bought a bunch of the old metal flake gear shift knobs every week, they used to have a whole aisle of of them at every truck stop. Now they bring unbelievable prices on e-bay or wherever you can find one. If I had bought some back then and put them in the deep freezer I could retire. 2 Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 8 hours ago, fjh said: I used to squirrel away various parts in my tool box bottom drawer that our parts guys seemed to have a hard time getting saving them from rebuild kits ect, Trunnion inner washers was a common save as not every job was worth using them! I did that too, when I worked at a garage when I was just out of high school. I would save all sorts of small parts, like brake springs and adjusters when we replaced them with new pieces, all sorts of things that I thought I might use...someday. 2 Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 yep... been there,,, still there,,, my co-workers dont throw anything out until they ask me if I want it.. 👍 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Yup Joey will take that 😂 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joey Mack Posted February 7 Popular Post Share Posted February 7 Yep,, for example this little $8,000.00 beauty.. I tuned it up and replaced worn parts. I have less than $300.00 in it and it works great.. They were going to scrap it.. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mechohaulic Posted February 8 Popular Post Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, other dog said: This has nothing to do with your parts issue, but as for the crystal ball- I've said many times that if I knew then what I know now I'd have bought a bunch of the old metal flake gear shift knobs every week, they used to have a whole aisle of of them at every truck stop. Now they bring unbelievable prices on e-bay or wherever you can find one. If I had bought some back then and put them in the deep freezer I could retire. think the list for the crystal ball darn endless. number one on my list is today I would be single and possibly happy; along with being in another profession with knees that might still work. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mean Green Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 On 2/7/2024 at 6:58 PM, Joey Mack said: Yep,, for example this little $8,000.00 beauty.. I tuned it up and replaced worn parts. I have less than $300.00 in it and it works great.. They were going to scrap it.. Isn’t it a shame how much people waste I’m the same way I hate seeing something that’s good thrown away I was at work one day and watched the parts man toss a brand new Alcoa hub pilot 24.5 polished rear wheel in the dumpster cause it was out of warranty I couldn’t get in the shop fast enough to get a ticket to take it home and fish it back out 1 Quote If your going to be a bear be a grizzly Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69424-shop-talk/page/78/#findComment-546331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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