Joey Mack Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I am trying to figure out the best way to sell counterbore cutting service.. I have been told to use facebook, but i am not sure how to use it. what are the options? jojo Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I don’t have fb, but that seems to be the way to go in terms of advertising/selling things. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 67RModel Posted March 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2022 10 hours ago, Joey Mack said: I am trying to figure out the best way to sell counterbore cutting service.. I have been told to use facebook, but i am not sure how to use it. what are the options? jojo I don't know. Most people looking at Facebook are not assembling engines and most engine builders are not looking on Facebook for a better or more convenient outlet for counterbore cutting. They probably just have the machine shop doing the head or grinding the crankshaft etc. cut them. I think you should think of all the fleet mechanics or repair shops in your area that actually do engine work/assembly and go directly to them and talk to them. Give them a business card and flyer with your capabilities on it for them to look at. I think you will have more success actually going and talking to these people than advertising. The actual number of people who need this service is miniscule in comparison to the amount of people who own and need engines rebuilt because the vast majority of people don't rebuild their own engine. They have a shop do it.....That's just how I see it if that makes sense. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) Also do you have machining spec books and information for just Mack engines or can you do Cat, Cummins, Volvo, Detroit? I mean if you got specs for N14, Series 60, D12, and 3406E/C15 engines you open up the doors to that much more work.... Edited March 31, 2022 by 67RModel Typo Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 I just have Mack info and that cutter head. the tool I bought will bolt to cat and john deere engines, I just need the cutter heads.. I need to do more research on tooling, however, in my area there are a lot of macks... jojo Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: I just have Mack info and that cutter head. the tool I bought will bolt to cat and john deere engines, I just need the cutter heads.. I need to do more research on tooling, however, in my area there are a lot of macks... jojo Joe How do you advertise now seems to be working? Build it they will come! the thing I worry about is getting stuck with parts bills ! labor only parts supplied by customer cash up front! unless your confident in there ability to pay! Edited March 31, 2022 by fjh Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 I stopped advertising a while back because I have many customers, and they keep me steadily busy, and they tell others about me which helps too....... I think that going to local shops and fleets is the way to go... I can start out with the Mack fleets then as I get more adapters and tools I can spread out.. I guess i'm like a Mack, slow and deliberate.. I am only 1 guy, and I get backed up quickly, I have 3 customers that I need to visit as it is, plus 3 engines in my shop, and an F-250, and a CXU-613 outside, that i'm fixing the DPF in.. Phewww... Thanks, 'F' jojo 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, fjh said: Joe How do you advertise now seems to be working? Build it they will come! the thing I worry about is getting stuck with parts bills ! labor only parts supplied by customer cash up front! unless your confident in there ability to pay! Yea a machine shop have the luxury of holding onto the block until you come and pay for it. With a mobile service like this you are going to the place/person with the engine, doing your work, and leaving. Mail an invoice to them and hope you get paid. But like I said before most shops/garages assembling engines have to have a decent enough reputation to be doing engine work so you would think it wouldn't be a problem to get paid in most cases. May take a while. Net 30 used to be the "normal" payment terms now it seems to be Net 60. There is also Net 90. I have started seeing "paid when paid" as well....... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Joey Mack said: I stopped advertising a while back because I have many customers, and they keep me steadily busy, and they tell others about me which helps too....... I think that going to local shops and fleets is the way to go... I can start out with the Mack fleets then as I get more adapters and tools I can spread out.. I guess i'm like a Mack, slow and deliberate.. I am only 1 guy, and I get backed up quickly, I have 3 customers that I need to visit as it is, plus 3 engines in my shop, and an F-250, and a CXU-613 outside, that i'm fixing the DPF in.. Phewww... Thanks, 'F' jojo More time working and less time on BMT.......😂 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 good points 67... I have been lucky, somehow im pretty clear about immediate payment, and they pay me.. I keep a 'Square' debit card swipy-thing with me at all times, and add 5% to cover usage fee's. and yes less time on BMT.. I still take some time in the morning, like right now.. I do need to get back out there... jojo 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: good points 67... I have been lucky, somehow im pretty clear about immediate payment, and they pay me.. I keep a 'Square' debit card swipy-thing with me at all times, and add 5% to cover usage fee's. and yes less time on BMT.. I still take some time in the morning, like right now.. I do need to get back out there... jojo All work and no play makes joe a dull boy!😜 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 You may be surprised at how many people/bussiness use Facebook, twitter, Instagram anymore. Bussines cards a thing of the past. I typed in mobile counter bore service and first thing that came up was this. https://m.facebook.com/Davezdieselrepairllc/?__tn__=C-R Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Also to add that if you do have a fb and people just search for it, it will come up on their search. You can do the cards and let people know but also get some kind of internet advertising. You could just put up a fb page for your business and list counter boring service. If that’s in there then it will come up when peoples search for it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 51 minutes ago, Onyx610 said: You may be surprised at how many people/bussiness use Facebook, twitter, Instagram anymore. Bussines cards a thing of the past. I typed in mobile counter bore service and first thing that came up was this. https://m.facebook.com/Davezdieselrepairllc/?__tn__=C-R People use something on their phones cause i get a laugh out of the guys at work and i am talking about guys with a shovel in one hand and their phone in the other hand.This is on road jobs but they are so short handed that i guess they can get too cranky with the help.Then you pass by the forman on the job and he is sitting in his pickup on the phone. 1 Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Yup it’s all too common with that shit anymore. No wonder nothing gets done like it used to. I actually like it when I forget my phone or just don’t have service for days when I’m in the mountains. It takes time to get used to, typically only about 30 min for me haha. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I have a flip phone and it will receive messages and tell me the time and i can call someone and thats all i need till i get home and on my lap top.As old as i am i dont need something else to distract me from driving.I am at home this week or otherwise i would not be on the site.I can still remember just being able to aford a phone at home.Who knows what the future holds for us next. 1 Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I should not knock any one who can use the phone at work because i only know me and i am very slow anymore and dont need to be playing on the phone.I takes me 5 minutes to tell my wife who i am when i call her from home. 1 Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I understand machine shop boring as a fortune if you can do it mobile You might have the only game in town especially after a few word of mouths don’t use Facebook either but that’s probably the way to go lots of people on it can’t hurt to try good luck partner… Bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) I’m sure lots of guys would be happy to know they didn’t have to tow their trucks to a shop and then tow it back… I could’ve used you 35 years ago ha ha…. Bob Edited March 31, 2022 by mowerman Misspell Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 Thank's to all you guy's.. I really appreciate the mixed opinions.. I think I will look into FB, but I also have 100 post cards already printed up, so I will use some old timey selling, and open a phonebook and find companies that may need my services. now about price.. I was thinking $250.00 to show up and do 1 hole, and $50.00 each hole after that... any thought's? please be honest... some of you have seen my service truck, and my operating range is 30 miles, and diesel is $5/gallon, here, so there is where my price comes from......jojo Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleclutchinweasel Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I think, once word gets around, you may have all the work you want. People will pay for convenience. And, like Bob was saying, this could save them time and money by doing it on-site. I'll be watching to see how it works out for you. Facebook will attract some folks. Local garages knowing about you will attract others. You might consider having someone set you up an actual website, with minimal content and the contact information. I search the internet first for anything I want. But, when I find a company whose ONLY website is their Facebook page, I tend to move on. But, that's just me. Quote "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Just now, doubleclutchinweasel said: But, when I find a company whose ONLY website is their Facebook page, I tend to move on. But, that's just me. THIS^^^^^^. I cant take anything with regards to Facebook seriously. If your only presence is via FB then I don't need your services. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 Thank's DCW... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 interesting view there, 67Rmodel... one opinion i didnt consider.. I would have only posted on FB, and stopped there, other than post cards and walk-in sales calls.. Thanks.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 In this day and age, FB is what most use but it does seem a bit cheesey for us that grew up with more hands on approach of advertising a business. Brick and mortar kind of thing.....but that is not how the world turns today. 1 Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/#findComment-493986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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