Onyx610 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Yea no one uses a phone book or let alone know what one is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-493987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 I did look into some other forms of advertising on-line.. I used google for a while, and it was only $12/ month. I got a lot of calls.. I went back to try it again, and the fee's were up near $1.50/ day for the minimum service, or 'pay per click' I used Yelp once with the 'Pay per Click' option.. I would view my page on a regular basis only to find out that ' Pay per Click' didnt exclude 'me' looking at my own page... it cost me over $400/month. that is way too expensive for me,, back to Google, prices were pretty high as well.. jojo Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-493988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 That starting price sounds pretty good to me test it out then you could slowly go up to 75 and then 100 If your business turns out real well Good luck Joey 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-493989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I'm a Millennial.....36 years old. Most people that know me say I was born 40-50 years too late. I grew up around extensive technology. Had a computer in every grade of school. Learned some programming in college. I use a computer every day of my life now and have a smart phone I use for tons of things but social media is not one of them. I refused to ever get involved with it. I really can't stand it on so many levels I won't discuss here. When I got into trucks as a hobby then as a part time side business I leaned on people I knew who were already in the business for knowledge and contacts. If I needed a specific service or parts or whatever I talked (you know real social interaction) to friends and acquaintances that have been in the situation before. This way I knew for sure of the specific vendor's reputation and abilities. I have the same method for just about any roadblock, question, or need in life I don't have experience in. It has worked very well for me over the years. I'm not hating on people who use FB. To each their own but I don't need it and don't want it. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-493994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 Thanks Bob.. I am waiting on all the info and instructions for my new tool. I wrote to the tool company today. I see it will work on Cat C-10/12/13... and many Cummins, except ISX.. I also saw John Deere, somewhere as well. I dont expect to make tons of money with this tool, I would like to cut back on the hard physical work that I do with regards to truck repair, and focus more on engine repair and builds.. Who know's.. I still don't know what I want to do when I grow up.. jojo 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-493996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, 67RModel said: I'm a Millennial.....36 years old. Most people that know me say I was born 40-50 years too late. I grew up around extensive technology. Had a computer in every grade of school. Learned some programming in college. I use a computer every day of my life now and have a smart phone I use for tons of things but social media is not one of them. I refused to ever get involved with it. I really can't stand it on so many levels I won't discuss here. When I got into trucks as a hobby then as a part time side business I leaned on people I knew who were already in the business for knowledge and contacts. If I needed a specific service or parts or whatever I talked (you know real social interaction) to friends and acquaintances that have been in the situation before. This way I knew for sure of the specific vendor's reputation and abilities. I have the same method for just about any roadblock, question, or need in life I don't have experience in. It has worked very well for me over the years. I'm not hating on people who use FB. To each their own but I don't need it and don't want it. Don’t have fb or any of that garbage either. I’m 33….But for something that is a free service and can get your name out there with a simple search on google or duck duck go why not? All these types of platforms are the way of the world like it or not. Essentially this website is no different. Edited March 31, 2022 by Onyx610 Spelling 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-493999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 You’ve got a rough racket Joey. I feel sorry for all vendors when the weather is shitty..: I just have to sit in the truck on the clock ha ha..: bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 yes sir... I get rained on and sometimes 'rained out' one advantage of being a Yankee in the south is that when its cold outside here, I can still work, because I dont feel it until it gets below 20 degrees, which is rare.. lol... 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 67RModel Posted March 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2022 21 minutes ago, Onyx610 said: Don’t have fb or any of that garbage either. I’m 33….But for something that is a free service and can get your name out there with a simple search on google or duck duck go why not? All these types of platforms are the way of the world like it or not. Essentially this website is no different. Yes I will concede this forum is probably by definition and in reality a form of social media. And I actually have contracted services from a fellow forum Member who I did not previously know sight unseen so I guess I will eat some crow there. I just think that as a one man band you open yourself up to too much negativity and bad reviews on FB and Google that could hurt you in the long run. I see so many good small business that have bad reviews or less than 5 stars because some moron got butt hurt about something. And like you said the way of the world is everyone puts so much stock in those ratings and reviews anymore…. Joey it sounds like you already have as much work as you need anyway. I think you would have much more meaningful relationships and contacts by going out in person and selling the service that way based on your reputation. Word of mouth referrals will follow. Plus you are only heading out in a 30 mile radius from home…. 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post terry Posted March 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, 67RModel said: Yes I will concede this forum is probably by definition and in reality a form of social media. And I actually have contracted services from a fellow forum Member who I did not previously know sight unseen so I guess I will eat some crow there. I just think that as a one man band you open yourself up to too much negativity and bad reviews on FB and Google that could hurt you in the long run. I see so many good small business that have bad reviews or less than 5 stars because some moron got butt hurt about something. And like you said the way of the world is everyone puts so much stock in those ratings and reviews anymore…. Joey it sounds like you already have as much work as you need anyway. I think you would have much more meaningful relationships and contacts by going out in person and selling the service that way based on your reputation. Word of mouth referrals will follow. Plus you are only heading out in a 30 mile radius from home…. And a one man operation can only line up so much work ahead, i can't count the times i have seen a 2or3 hour job on sat. turn out to be all weekend! and generally people want there work done yesterday! terry 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Kind of off the subject but reminds me of that baker that refused to put a cake together for a gay marriage they just about ruined him Facebook probably had a lot to do with it that’s sucks… But yes I forgot about the shitty reviews like this guy said all you need is one…Bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
85snowdog Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 My 2 cents is 67Rmodel hit the nail on the head. You actually have a good opportunity to finish off your international or some other truck and go to truck shows, tractor pulls, or any spot with Diesel engines and promote yourself. Hand out your post cards and have a nice chat . That way you can judge the customer . lol . We all know the customer we wish we had stayed away from . 😀 1 1 Quote Keith Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 But yeah it’s just this site alone will probably send you quite a few referrals …:: bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 Terry, you are right, I already have a bunch of work right now. I just want to add one more important service to my list, to help keep the flow of work. And yes, many times a 2-3 hr job turns into a sh!tshow, and-or parts issue, like 3 of my current jobs, and lets not forget waiting on a machine shop. I have parts for 2 engines at a shop for 3 weeks now.. I will call again to check, I just dont want to be too much of a pest, because I need them more then they need me.. jojo 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 minute ago, 85snowdog said: My 2 cents is 67Rmodel hit the nail on the head. You actually have a good opportunity to finish off your international or some other truck and go to truck shows, tractor pulls, or any spot with Diesel engines and promote yourself. Hand out your post cards and have a nice chat . That way you can judge the customer . lol . We all know the customer we wish we had stayed away from . 😀 That’s ingenious you just outdid the rest of us ha ha… Bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Hey Joey if this will help you just about every honey do I have around here winds up way longer than I thought….: bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
85snowdog Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Just now, mowerman said: That’s ingenious you just outdid the rest of us ha ha… Bob Believe me...... I couldn't outdo anyone , lol 1 Quote Keith Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 Snowdog and Bob good points, and yes, when I am at truck shows, hopefully with my '48 Int. this year, I can easily strike up conversations. Yes, I have worked for a few guys that I wished I didnt work for, and I have lost money, oh well.. most of my customers are good people that pay quickly. and one of the engines in my shop is from one of our BMT brother's... jojo 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Might take a little while to get it out there, but something like cut'n counterbores ? Seems like a word of mouth thing from someone you did it for is how that gets spread around. Especially if you're willing to go to the customer. I know our guy here never advertised and his name comes up any time someone asks. Maybe if you get friendly with a parts guy or two who can pass the info along to guys buy'n cylinder kits ? Little tricky as they could get in trouble at work, but parts guys that have been around a while .... they know who to share stuff with. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 Yes Mark, you are correct, I have several connections who have gotten work for me. and I have already spoken to a couple of them in my travels this week.. the more I think about it, the more im leaning towards word of mouth, referrals, and such.. The machine shop i use does not cut counter bores in big truck engines, so I will be talking to him when I pick up my engine parts.. maybe I could go there and do the cutting and they bill their customer,, jojo Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I like that idea , nice buffer between yourself and people you may not have any history with. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 Im sure this will work,, like i said before, it wont be a big money maker, but it will be another service, hell, i bet if I go to a company and cut the counter bores, i bet they ask me "How much to finish the engine"? that has happened before with other jobs i was a 'Part' of,. I end up finishing it because when they ask me about my knowledge and history, they say, 'why dont you just finish it for us',... just sayin'... jojo 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 8 hours ago, Joey Mack said: I stopped advertising a while back because I have many customers, and they keep me steadily busy, and they tell others about me which helps too...... 8 hours ago, Joey Mack said: I am only 1 guy, and I get backed up quickly, The last thing a One Man band such as yourself needs is Too much Work.!!! . People Start complaining about you taking Too long to get to them... (Ask me how I know This) If You're steadily Busy, I would just keep doing what your Doing. .Word of Mouth advertising is the best there Is.. Also You have a wife & young Child (or is It Children?) Best advice I ever got about being a parent is; You can only watch your Kids grow up Once!! You need a good work life balance, & It's pointless being the richest Man in the Cemetery.. Just My 2 cents worth.. 1 Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 yes Hayseed,, you are right, my 3 kids are 'Pup's'' but they need me too.. thank you sir, jojo Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Don’t forget to grease his palms my brother One referral could turn into 100 Im no time Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69460-mack-engine-counterbore-cutting/page/2/#findComment-494040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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