70mackMB Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) Do you know what DEF fluid is? It's Diesel Exhaust Fluid. Every Diesel truck that has been made since 2010 is required to use it. It's a product made of 67% Urea fertilizer and 33% distilled water. Every diesel truck you see driving down the road today has to have this product to drive. The engines won't start without it. There are regulators inside the engine that mix DEF with the Diesel to reduce Diesel emissions. That's the purpose of DEF. Right now, Russia is the largest exporter of Urea by a wide margin. Qatar is second. Egypt and China are Tied for 3rd. Both Russia and China have decided to no longer export Urea. On top of that, India is the largest manufacturer of Urea in the world even though they consume most of what they make. What little they would export..........they no longer do. They are now stopping the exportation of any and all Urea minus a deal they just cut with Sri Lanka. What does this mean for you and me? Well, first, the United States imports most of it's Urea fertilizer. We are the third largest importer in the entire world. We depend on other countries to eat, drive and ship our products. Secondly... Flying J is the largest Service provider for Truckers around the Unites States. I'm sure you've seen their massive gas stations when traveling around the country. Flying J gets 70% of their DEF fluid from shipments via Union Pacific railroad. UP has single user access to the Fertilizer plants that Urea/DEF fluid comes from. No other rail provider has access to these distribution points. This means Flying J can't just go around Union Pacific. Union Pacific is in charge....for a reason I'm gonna mention in a few paragraphs. Flying J provides 30% of all DEF consumed in the United States. UP has told Flying J to reduce their shipments by a whopping 50%. And if they do not comply then they will be completely embargoed. That would in effect bankrupt FJ. This means that 15% of all DEF consumed by truckers in the US is no longer available at the largest travel service center for the entire trucking industry. Rome rotted from the inside out. It was easily invaded because it was occupied with internal problems. It appears we have discovered the Trigger. DEF fluid. If this holds up, DEF shortages will be the catalyst that causes food shortages in the coming months. Not only is there a shortage of fertilizer to grow crops in drought-stricken states (See Kansas' drop in wheat production for 2022)....but....now it looks like, unless the Federal Government intervenes via the Defense Production Act, ...which I am no longer confident they will....there is gonna be an absolute massive shortage of trucking in the coming months. There simply isn't going to be DEF fluid sufficient to keep the engines running and moving. Home Depot is now limiting the amount of DEF you can buy in their stores. I would think long and hard about the decisions you are making right now. Where you live. What you spend money on. How you prepare. This is so real that the CEO of Flying J, Shameek Konar was summoned to a Surface Transportation Board hearing to give them all this info. From what I'm reading....Blackrock is the majority shareholder of Union Pacific railroad. How is that important? Americas biggest fertilizer producer is CF Industries. Their largest shareholder is Blackrock. Blackrock controls the fertilizer industry in the U.S.. Union Pacific has exclusive rights to distribution points of fertilizer. Urea is fertilizer. Flying J needs Urea/DEF. Blackrock is controlling everything. The Chairman of the BlackRock Investment Institute is Tom Donilon, President Obama’s former National Security Advisor. Tom Donilon’s brother, Mike Donilon is a Senior Advisor to Joe Biden. Tom Donilon’s wife, Catherine Russell, is the White House Personnel Director. Tom Donilon’s daughter, Sarah Donilon, who graduated college in 2019, now works on the White House National Security Council. It appears Blackrock is spearheading the dismantling of the US system on behalf of the Globalists. And the first domino they are pushing over is the energy sector. They are using DEF to get the party started. This is one sector of the biggest downfalls in political repercussions this country has ever faced… From, Diesel Peeps Edited May 28, 2022 by 70mackMB Addition Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 I'm taking a few minutes to process this.. I have real concerns that come from my GUT.. I still dont understand how we could go from being, just fine and making a living.... to... destruction.. I'm sorry that I am not smart,, but I am very concerned... Jojo 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 We'll be OK. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tjc transport Posted May 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2022 10 hours ago, 70mackMB said: Do you know what DEF fluid is? It's Diesel Exhaust Fluid. Every Diesel truck that has been made since 2010 is required to use it. It's a product made of 67% Urea fertilizer and 33% distilled water. Every diesel truck you see driving down the road today has to have this product to drive. The engines won't start without it. There are regulators inside the engine that mix DEF with the Diesel to reduce Diesel emissions. That's the purpose of DEF. DEF is 32.5% urea and 67.5% de-ionized water. not 67% urea and 33% water. second point: DEF is injected into the exhaust, not into the engine. third point: The urea used in the manufacture of DEF is synthetically derived from ammonia and carbon dioxide. fourth point: Colonial Chemical Company of New Jersey makes 90% of the urea used in DEF, and has been doing so for over 20 years. so i would not believe anything those "experts" say. 3 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) Well the whole caper frankly does not surprise me let’s face it follows we’ve got a bunch of selfish pigs running everything these days I just filled out the mustang yesterday 70 f——— Kn dollars Or 12 gallons you gotta be shitting me thanks assholes Edited May 28, 2022 by mowerman Misspelled Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 But is TJ mentioned I was thinking the same thing how hard could it be to produce it right here I suppose the Almighty Biden would put the cabash to that as well Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 That’s actually the first I’ve heard of any def shortage although half these truckstops are blocking half their lanes to slow down sales what the hell is this????? More sitting and waiting for free for a lot of these guys… Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 The Commie NWO is trying to take us down on all fronts without firing a shot, with the help of political traitors. DEF is just a part of the squeeze. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeH Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 This will drive older used truck pricing up... 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Geeeeeeeeeeesus What is this don’t we the people have any voice anymore these over paid communist pigs are ruining this Place and it doesn’t seem like there’s anything we can do about it but sit here and take it this is ridiculous … Bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 But yes I am on a three day weekend and I shouldn’t be complaining but I whined for all of us as a group Democrat or Republican we’re all paying the price for out of control Phony leaders Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 we can say all we want and voice our opinions all we want Bob. but as long as the demonrats control the media and government, they control what people see or hear. if they tell the sheep 99% think they are doing a good job, the sheep will believe them. even if they feel differently. 1 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 6 hours ago, JoeH said: This will drive older used truck pricing up... Already has Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 To me, this will help me because of how I make a living, repairing older pre-emission trucks, and some pre-DEF trucks.. however,, it shouldn't be forced upon company's.. Choice is dwindeling, that sucks.. I am not wringing my hands waiting for the dollar,,, I would rather see things level out for ALL trucking company's and the smaller truckers with 1 truck or 3 or 4 and so on.. these D-Bags are creating monopolies.. and they will destroy the 'little guy'... Jojo Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 sooner or later all trucks will need to run DEF or be taken off the road. nu yawk already requires it since jan 1 2020, but so far the law in not enforced. new jersey has already signed a law that says new truck sales after 2025 must be zero emissions pollution free. but have not come up with an alternative propulsion source to reach this stupid greenie tree hugger ruling. Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Electric truck's... 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tjc transport Posted May 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2022 yup. they have three years to come up with an electric truck that can run 500 miles per charge hauling 80,000 lbs......every day... they can't even do half that with a car that weighs 3,500 lbs.. 2 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 I dont see how they can do it... A fire dept. near me has just bought an electric fire truck.. What gets me is how they could produce this truck so quickly, concidering how short the timeline is so far.. I dont know how that truck will work. and as far as these magic cars that they claim will go "Up to" 300 miles on a charge... "Up to" being operative words. how far will they go with the Heat or A/C running, while the headlights and wipers are on during a rain or snow storm? I know I will keep driving my gas powered electricity generator, and get where I need to go.. jojo 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 well, that is the problem Joey..... they cant. but that does not stop them from passing laws mandating it. New Jersey passed a law 20 years ago mandating "smart guns" The New Jersey Childproof Handgun Law, passed in 2002, requires that once a smart gun is sold anywhere in the country (even outside of New Jersey), all New Jersey gun shops must, within three years, only carry smart guns. it has been 20 years, and there is still no "smart guns" that work as the planners think they will. 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GA_Dave Posted May 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Joey Mack said: I dont see how they can do it... A fire dept. near me has just bought an electric fire truck.. What gets me is how they could produce this truck so quickly, concidering how short the timeline is so far.. I dont know how that truck will work. and as far as these magic cars that they claim will go "Up to" 300 miles on a charge... "Up to" being operative words. how far will they go with the Heat or A/C running, while the headlights and wipers are on during a rain or snow storm? I know I will keep driving my gas powered electricity generator, and get where I need to go.. jojo I don't know how well an electric fire truck will work, but I have my suspicions. I do already know that these electric fire trucks, being produced in VERY limited quantities now, all have a backup ICE generator to keep them going. Kinda defeats the purpose! Also, water and electricity do not mix! I foresee this apparatus being a major problem within a year or two. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joey Mack Posted May 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2022 I laugh at myself sometimes.... I knew years ago, that our country was going to Hell, right when I realized the "Ivory Soap" was no longer,, 99 and 44/100th. % pure... Thats when the P.C. B.S. started.... Just for a laugh, but I actually feel this way.. Call me crazy.... "May we remember the dead" this weekend,, They gave their all to keep our country, a country.. Jojo 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Well,, maybe there is a chance for us... I have to stand corrected. My wife just home from the store,, The Ivory soap she bought, has a small symbol, saying it IS 99 and 44/100th % pure.. Hoorrayy!!! Jojo 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOBWhite Posted May 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2022 Kansas farmer here and He's right. Our Anhydrous ammonia bill this year was higher than it has ever been, and we only did one field. The supply of Round Up and other fertilizers and chemicals we use on our no till farm has dried up, our suppliers said they simply cannot get it. The Kansas wheat production has also gone down due to the lack of rain but there isn't much we can due about that. Def shortages won't do anything to us, but the custom cutters that roll through here use a huge amount of it that they have to bring in because the closest supplier is an hour away. I might have said this before but the Def requirement I think is the biggest scandal in U.S history. Blue sky is (I believe) the biggest producer of Def in this country and when it was signed into law in 2010 can you guess who the biggest shareholder of the company was? Obama and company. They need to be put behind bars for that. 4 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 Fertilizer is dear the world over, highest I had ever paid was I think 2011 $800 a ton Urea, made no money farming that year $1300 ton and climbing this year Commodity prices are good but the inputs are climbing quicker Anyways, that business and joy of been in business Paul 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBWhite Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 Not to derail here but what all do you farm In Australia? And what machinery do you guys run over there? Your right about commodity prices are rising, $14 per bushel of wheat right nows nice but to come out even you would need probably more than 30 bushes per acre which I really don't think we have the rain for. Anyways I heard somewhere that the def shortages have hit Australia hard with their main supplier China cutting back on exports of the stuff. You seen any difference? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/69847-def-shortage/#findComment-498827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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