Quickfarms Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Can anyone identify this 4 spring suspension? it is on a 1972 RS700 that I believe is a glider 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 I'm not sure what suspension that is, but that's a nice old truck. Looks like it has a Detroit ? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickfarms Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 Yes Detroit 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 don't recall such a light equalizer being on a tractor. if I'm seeing right ,the rear drive has the parking brake cans with one disconnected. a little T L C that would make a real nice truck . R700 western ,old kysor AC and bullet roof lights . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 must have been parked for some time based on the cob webs. a real great barn find. see the sangangomo (wrong spelling) speedo /clock on the dash; haven't seen one of those since the '70's. I still have quite a few DD tools in my toolbox. just a suggestion, I would clean off the top half of engine and remove the valve covers to make sure the rack and injector plungers move freely. a runaway DD is a scary and costly situation. you would be sick if I told you all the brand new DD parts I threw over the bank yrs ago. turbo's, new complete piston kits , and the list goes on. got tired of moving them around my garage. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 that is freightliner rears. 1 Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickfarms Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 19 hours ago, mechohaulic said: must have been parked for some time based on the cob webs. a real great barn find. see the sangangomo (wrong spelling) speedo /clock on the dash; haven't seen one of those since the '70's. I still have quite a few DD tools in my toolbox. just a suggestion, I would clean off the top half of engine and remove the valve covers to make sure the rack and injector plungers move freely. a runaway DD is a scary and costly situation. you would be sick if I told you all the brand new DD parts I threw over the bank yrs ago. turbo's, new complete piston kits , and the list goes on. got tired of moving them around my garage. Last registered in 1993, used as a yard mule until 8 years ago. No brakes on the front axle and only spring brakes on the rear most axle, the disconnected air can probably leaks much worse than the one that is still connected. once it is running I will replace, or rebuild, all the air cans and see if that starts to correct the air loss issue tell me more about checking the rack and injector plungers Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 23 hours ago, Quickfarms said: Can anyone identify this 4 spring suspension? it is on a 1972 RS700 that I believe is a glider This may have been a glider kit because there has never been a mack suspension bolted to that frame so that means some one built a glider kit. 1 Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 A runaway DD can kill ever body big enough to run if you dont know what to do. 1 Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 I thought it was from an international with Eaton rears, and the aluminum rims are modern,, didnt see if they were budd's or hub piloted.. i'll look again.. The truck is still cool.. but I think its a Mongrel... sorry, dont know how to spell Mongrel..... jojo 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 looks like budd wheels on the front, i assume budd's on the rear,,, certainly not spokes with aluminum rims.. I would be curious if there is a seem where it was married to a back half? Its a cool truck... Just my 2 cent's... Jojo 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark T Posted October 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2022 I agree with Glenn. That's old Freightliner. Gliders we're popular back then. It wasn't always an avoid after treatment thing. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 The rear ends are SQHD or SLHD rockwell. 1 Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Yep. Maybe even would have been called " Timkens " Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, Mark T said: I agree with Glenn. That's old Freightliner. Gliders we're popular back then. It wasn't always an avoid after treatment thing. '70's saw a lot of gliders and B_C_R 's built. I built a U611st for a local company. mack eng coupled to a RR. decent wheelbase. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: looks like budd wheels on the front, i assume budd's on the rear,,, certainly not spokes with aluminum rims.. I would be curious if there is a seem where it was married to a back half? Its a cool truck... Just my 2 cent's... Jojo most gliders were long frame rails with suspension added based on wheelbase wanted. cut offs welded to cab front half didn't seem to majority that i remember. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 hour ago, theakerstwo said: A runaway DD can kill ever body big enough to run if you dont know what to do. some options don't allow the run away part. LOL short version which i believe i told before on the forums;; working night shift waterbury Mack CT . a K100 towed in for drive line problems. sat for two weeks in shop waiting for tab to be paid. guy comes in late night ,climbs up in cab . hits the key; engine went beyond wide open in seconds. i rip rear cab engine screen off . CLIMB /CRAWL on top of screaming engine manually flip emergency stop;; tooo late. it shuts down; jack cab remove valve covers :: ALL rockers were shattered. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Quickfarms said: Last registered in 1993, used as a yard mule until 8 years ago. No brakes on the front axle and only spring brakes on the rear most axle, the disconnected air can probably leaks much worse than the one that is still connected. once it is running I will replace, or rebuild, all the air cans and see if that starts to correct the air loss issue 2 hours ago, Quickfarms said: Last registered in 1993, used as a yard mule until 8 years ago. No brakes on the front axle and only spring brakes on the rear most axle, the disconnected air can probably leaks much worse than the one that is still connected. once it is running I will replace, or rebuild, all the air cans and see if that starts to correct the air loss issue tell me more about checking the rack and injector plungers remove the valve covers , work the fuel linkage top of eng. the rack control rods = coming from governor to injector rack front of head Inside should move back and forth. the rack connecting each injector will move. as each injector goes to full fuel , the injector arm will rotate very slightly. I would remove truck fuel linkage from governor making sure engine linkage is free. enlarging the picture the emergency shut off might not be connected. most of the time , steel cable cuts through the flip lever. MAKE SURE THE EMERGENCY STOP WORKS . sounds like a technical deal ;; it's not;; very simple preventative maintenance. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 70mackMB Posted October 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2022 First thing l see is the roof mounted Kysor then the Farr air cleaner. Should look nice when it's all cleaned up. .....Hippy 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickfarms Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share Posted October 7, 2022 2 hours ago, mechohaulic said: remove the valve covers , work the fuel linkage top of eng. the rack control rods = coming from governor to injector rack front of head Inside should move back and forth. the rack connecting each injector will move. as each injector goes to full fuel , the injector arm will rotate very slightly. I would remove truck fuel linkage from governor making sure engine linkage is free. enlarging the picture the emergency shut off might not be connected. most of the time , steel cable cuts through the flip lever. MAKE SURE THE EMERGENCY STOP WORKS . sounds like a technical deal ;; it's not;; very simple preventative maintenance. The cable is not connected to the flip lever, it looks like it was just bent over the lever. That seems like a weak way to attach it, how much force would be in the flip lever? The lever moves freely, do I need to check it further? how many batteries should I put in the truck? Here in Southern California i have only run 2 batteries in my other trucks. Will 2 work or do I need 4? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
70mackMB Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/5/2022 at 10:33 PM, mechohaulic said: see the sangangomo (wrong spelling) speedo /clock on the dash; haven't seen one of those since the '70's. The Sangamo Tachograph looks like it should be mounted in the dash to the right of the tachometer. But where it is now was a common spot for them. My MB had one mounted on a 1" X ? length of pipe wielded to plate steel on the dog house. Speedometer cable came thru a hole near the shifter tower. Have two of them, should mount one of 'em where it once was. .....Hippy 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Looking at this truck on a laptop. Looks like it has some kind of shifter relocating shift tower ? I'm assuming it's a thirteen speed ???? Looks to be in really nice shape too. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Looks like a 13 spd. to me too.. sunlight faded the red button. 8LL would be blue,,, 18 , gray.. I wish I was close enough to go look at it... I just want to see this truck that is unusual to me... jojo 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Ha ha I would’ve guessed freight liner myself But still who cares truck is pretty clean Bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Joey Mack said: Looks like a 13 spd. to me too.. sunlight faded the red button. 8LL would be blue,,, 18 , gray.. I wish I was close enough to go look at it... I just want to see this truck that is unusual to me... jojo That old scream'n demon woulda got a 13 of the RTO or RT variety. It is a cool old truck. Probably doesn't weigh much either. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70526-suspension-identification/#findComment-511280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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