Walkyrie_Engineering Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Just doing a little research here, was kicking around an idea, we purchased our truck and it happened to be deleted, and as I understand it the cost to Un deleted it can get pretty expensive. But allegedly the fmcsa came out with a clarification that the emissions are based off the engine year, and if I could obtain a pre emissions MP10 for a similar amount of money that it would cost to replace the emissions system to make it legal why wouldn't I go for the option to get a little more HP out of my truck, and then perhaps be able to drop the extra weight and gain more frame space for more important knickknacks that the def tank and scr filter and such take up. Thoughts? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70562-2013-chu-mp8-to-mp10-swap/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I love the idea, have you been able to source a pre emission mp10? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70562-2013-chu-mp8-to-mp10-swap/#findComment-511870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkyrie_Engineering Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Onyx610 said: I love the idea, have you been able to source a pre emission mp10? Not quite yet I'm still researching whether or not it's a viable option Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70562-2013-chu-mp8-to-mp10-swap/#findComment-511917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) Im not sure if there was a pre emission mp10 unlike the 7. I think it was 08 when it came out and I’m not sure if there was one that just had the nox sensor and egr like some of the early 2007 mp7s had. Edited October 14, 2022 by Onyx610 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70562-2013-chu-mp8-to-mp10-swap/#findComment-511918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackpro Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I believe the Volvo D16 came out in 2006 with EGR only and only in the VT880. Having worked on a few MP10’s , the engine is massive and is physically much larger than a MP8. Plus the radiator is huge. I’d think it’s next to impossible to cram it in a CHU. Now get a CL with a bad engine and put the CHU cab on it and then paint the D16 red and slap some Mack stickers on it and you might be in business however getting the Mack Vecu to talk to the Volvo engine ecm would be a miracle. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70562-2013-chu-mp8-to-mp10-swap/#findComment-511926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 9 hours ago, Mackpro said: I believe the Volvo D16 came out in 2006 with EGR only and only in the VT880. Having worked on a few MP10’s , the engine is massive and is physically much larger than a MP8. Plus the radiator is huge. I’d think it’s next to impossible to cram it in a CHU. Now get a CL with a bad engine and put the CHU cab on it and then paint the D16 red and slap some Mack stickers on it and you might be in business however getting the Mack Vecu to talk to the Volvo engine ecm would be a miracle. I agree you would need a few good skill sets to pull off that miracle From Engineering to programing as well as pull your welding and mechanical shit out of the case if your up to the challange! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70562-2013-chu-mp8-to-mp10-swap/#findComment-511995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 6:44 AM, Walkyrie_Engineering said: Thoughts? It'll be more trouble than It's worth..........!!!! Just My 2 cents worth. 2 Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70562-2013-chu-mp8-to-mp10-swap/#findComment-512069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkyrie_Engineering Posted October 16, 2022 Author Share Posted October 16, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 11:37 PM, Mackpro said: I believe the Volvo D16 came out in 2006 with EGR only and only in the VT880. Having worked on a few MP10’s , the engine is massive and is physically much larger than a MP8. Plus the radiator is huge. I’d think it’s next to impossible to cram it in a CHU. Now get a CL with a bad engine and put the CHU cab on it and then paint the D16 red and slap some Mack stickers on it and you might be in business however getting the Mack Vecu to talk to the Volvo engine ecm would be a miracle. I haven't been able to see one up close in person, I figured they would be bigger but I didn't realize they were that much bigger. I had seen some videos of a guy with what appears to be a newer pinnacle 64t that had fit one in but he drag races it so I suppose he probably did a lot of work to fit it in there Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70562-2013-chu-mp8-to-mp10-swap/#findComment-512187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 I think you'd need external air cleaners for room under the hood. But for what it'd cost to do injectors on an mp10, you could redo all your emissions. Go with an aftermarket one box. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70562-2013-chu-mp8-to-mp10-swap/#findComment-512213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 If you can figure out how to make that swap then let Volvo know for they don't seem to be able to figure it out. Or IMHO they don't want to. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70562-2013-chu-mp8-to-mp10-swap/#findComment-512334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Well said James! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70562-2013-chu-mp8-to-mp10-swap/#findComment-512952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James A. Jimerson Sr. Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 I just purchased a 2001 CX 613 460 100th anniversary edition. I am looking for a great Mack mechanic outside of the dealership around Birmingham, Montgomery, Mobile, AL. I'm trying to figure out how to either beef up my 460 or try to put something newer in her. Qualified, great work ethic, honest mechanics have been hiding from me. Can anyone help? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70562-2013-chu-mp8-to-mp10-swap/#findComment-557384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 On 8/20/2024 at 5:47 PM, James A. Jimerson Sr. said: . Qualified, great work ethic, honest mechanics have been hiding from me. Can anyone help? A mostly Discontinued Mind set with the current work environment! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70562-2013-chu-mp8-to-mp10-swap/#findComment-557744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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