Onyx610 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) I do like the new color Volvo is using on the new engines. Edited October 21, 2022 by Onyx610 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Onyx610 said: I do like the new color Volvo is using on the new engines. Horses ass of a different color ! I to like the color ! Its still Volvo trash! One of my customers used to call his Volvos the Girly trucks ! Just repeating a statement ! Topics of this poster do not reflect the nature of the BMT web site we are an all inclusive group! 😉 Sometimes!😅 And notice there is enough room below the compressor for that HPCR pump install an electric fuel pump and proper fuel pedestal good to go! Just sayin! 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, fjh said: Horses ass of a different color ! I to like the color ! Its still Volvo trash! One of my customers used to call his Volvos the Girly trucks ! Just repeating a statement ! Topics of this poster do not reflect the nature of the BMT web site we are an all inclusive group! 😉 Sometimes!😅 And notice there is enough room below the compressor for that HPCR pump install an electric fuel pump and proper fuel pedestal good to go! Just sayin! Lots of room, give it a few more years and there will be one. Have any of you guys heard what one of these MP8 s sound like deleted? I hadn’t and looked some up today and I was actually amazed at how good they sound. There isn’t many vids out there…. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 I have read this thread a few times.. I really think that I have NO CLUE.. I used to work on and maintain, what ACTUALLY worked... These newer engines may have the power and performance, but , they cant do it for 500,00 miles+ before a MAJOR repair is needed.. I really think that some of us have been brainwashed into thinking this new TECH is the answer... These new engines produce a lot of broken parts that cant be re-built , and that put's parts in the trash.. not recycled. also, sure older engines got 6+ MPG, but they did it honestly. So there was a little smoke.. So what... These engines kept the trucks moving and these newer trucks are just an appeasement for some dumbasses that dont move freight.. Maybe these tree huggers need to run the exhaust through an exhaust BONG that is a water tank instead of a DEF tank, and let the water filter out the junk. Then you pull up to a waste water dump station like RV's use when they dump their gray and black water, then refill the truck BONG with new water and drive on... Water is an incredible filter... OK... So there's my CRAZY thought... 😘 Jojo 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 I like water bongs 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 They WORK!!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Onyx610 Posted October 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2022 It’s not being brainwashed into thinking the new tech is the answer….it’s the fact that it’s here and it’s what we got and there’s nothing we can do about it. Do i wish we could go back 20 years+ yea. Honestly these new engines would be soo much better if it wasn’t for the emissions. That’s what kills them and causes all the problems. All they do is create heat and that is the number one killer of diesel engines. 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 GO BACK ONLY 20YRS;; i'm all in favor of going back when an engine ran well, smoked a little , ran for=== A LONG TIME : I'm no fool-won't put a number in that spot. can't go back physically , toooo bad. "new tech" has one goal :what's in it for me. this electric crap- one starts the process everyone else jumps in so as not to loose $$$. take away alot of the electronic stuff , let the driver drive it ; you won't have a 250k truck on the side of the road because of a sensor or what ever. this is only an ole man thoughts, I can remember if a truck had a million miles or more without a major repair it was big time bragging rite.sure they run for millions more miles today , how many times in the shop do todays "junk"end up to get all those miles. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 EXACTLY!!!! I love you Mech... But not in a Gay way... jojo 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 34 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: I have read this thread a few times.. I really think that I have NO CLUE.. I used to work on and maintain, what ACTUALLY worked... These newer engines may have the power and performance, but , they cant do it for 500,00 miles+ before a MAJOR repair is needed.. I really think that some of us have been brainwashed into thinking this new TECH is the answer... These new engines produce a lot of broken parts that cant be re-built , and that put's parts in the trash.. not recycled. also, sure older engines got 6+ MPG, but they did it honestly. So there was a little smoke.. So what... These engines kept the trucks moving and these newer trucks are just an appeasement for some dumbasses that dont move freight.. Maybe these tree huggers need to run the exhaust through an exhaust BONG that is a water tank instead of a DEF tank, and let the water filter out the junk. Then you pull up to a waste water dump station like RV's use when they dump their gray and black water, then refill the truck BONG with new water and drive on... Water is an incredible filter... OK... So there's my CRAZY thought... 😘 Jojo guess that's where the phrase " things change with the times" . imagine if the Mack bros or Henry Ford came back to todays world . have to wonder would they be amazed at technology or sadden by the mess. another 65-75yrs most of us will be gone; what would we come back to?? amazing technology or a BIGGER MESS. in high school I designed a 3 dimensional drawing of a big rig; combo off set cab and the freightliner hood. before freightliner came out with it. no I don't have it threw too many things away. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Onyx610 Posted October 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2022 All this has nothing to do with truck companies/engine companies….it’s all politics and people making decisions about shit they know absolutely nothing about. 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 TaaDahhh!!! No SH!t... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 25 minutes ago, Onyx610 said: All this has nothing to do with truck companies/engine companies….it’s all politics and people making decisions about shit they know absolutely nothing about. you mean like in washington DC Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Onyx610 said: Lots of room, give it a few more years and there will be one. Have any of you guys heard what one of these MP8 s sound like deleted? I hadn’t and looked some up today and I was actually amazed at how good they sound. There isn’t many vids out there…. not bad ;; still like the 866 ' bad a-- sound and power for the day. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fjh Posted October 22, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Onyx610 said: Lots of room, give it a few more years and there will be one. Have any of you guys heard what one of these MP8 s sound like deleted? I hadn’t and looked some up today and I was actually amazed at how good they sound. There isn’t many vids out there…. Sorry bro you can’t make a six cylinder anything sound good to me!V8 is music to my ears. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, fjh said: Sorry bro you can’t make a six cylinder anything sound good to me!V8 is music to my ears. Have you ever heard those Scania V8s? 🤤 Edited October 22, 2022 by Onyx610 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted October 22, 2022 Author Share Posted October 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Onyx610 said: Have you ever heard those Scania V8s? 🤤 Yup they sound like a Mack V8 beautiful!❤️ 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Redesign that stupid hot pipe as well or maybe the gaskets? I forgot about that nightmare. If you know…you know…. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 On 10/22/2022 at 11:09 AM, Onyx610 said: Honestly these new engines would be soo much better if it wasn’t for the emissions. I wholeheartedly Agree.. 2 Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 You have anything to add? Id like to hear others opinion on the subject in general even if it’s not the mp8. Good topic, keep it going. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackpro Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Onyx610 said: Redesign that stupid hot pipe as well or maybe the gaskets? I forgot about that nightmare. If you know…you know…. You talking about the EGR valve to EGR cooler elbow pipe? Sometimes I just had to walk away after trying to get that thing to seal after 5-6 tries. We made a couple of specialty tools to install and pressure test the connection. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Onyx610 said: You have anything to add? Id like to hear others opinion on the subject in general even if it’s not the mp8. Good topic, keep it going. Nope, you've covered everything.. The High range Syncro in the M Drive is a bit prone to Failure.. But there's an aftermarket Fix for That,, 1 Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 5 hours ago, Mackpro said: You talking about the EGR valve to EGR cooler elbow pipe? Sometimes I just had to walk away after trying to get that thing to seal after 5-6 tries. We made a couple of specialty tools to install and pressure test the connection. Yup that one. I don’t know what It is with that thing….what are these tools you speak of?? Haha Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 8 hours ago, Mackpro said: You talking about the EGR valve to EGR cooler elbow pipe? Sometimes I just had to walk away after trying to get that thing to seal after 5-6 tries. We made a couple of specialty tools to install and pressure test the connection. It’s nice to hear that I’m not the only person out there that gets my ass handed to me by a stupid U pipe. It’s also extremely nice to hear that someone of your skill set and knowledge has problems with it as well. That thing can make you feel pretty stupid haha. It’s funny how it has a very distinct sound when it leaks, sounds like a tea pot. Comes and goes through the rpm range as it should, as it’s tied to the egr valve. If it’s all the way through the rpm range then it’s a good way to tell that the valve is stuck open. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 12 hours ago, Onyx610 said: Redesign that stupid hot pipe as well or maybe the gaskets? I forgot about that nightmare. If you know…you know…. They had the fix for that when they bought Mack AC tube flange was fine! just chose not to use it ! 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70593-if-you-had-the-opportunity-to-redesign-the-mack-chassis-and-the-mp-engines-what-would-you-change/page/3/#findComment-513650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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