C4Ed Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Drive a mack that carries a 5000 gallon pump tank. Rear was walking out about 4 to 5 inches. Brought it to company mechanic told me that mack allows movement. Said drive it no problems.We had high wind warnings and I was driving and it felt a little wiggly but all the wind I thought I as getting pushed around. Now a couple of days later I'm going 65 full load and rear axle pad box blows off I drive the crap out of it almost crash and burned but was able to not hit anything. If you have a high milage camelback rear I advise to check it.I wont drive it without complete parts replacement Springs buckets and bushings.What you think about parts replacement they should not even not replace it all 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 That would of added some excitement to the day Gotta ask the question, did you get under and have a look when you first noticed it tracking out wide ? Thinking it might of had a broken or missing bolt that could of easily been noticed And Mack Camel backs do track a fair bit Paul 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Oh My Sufferin' Christ !!!!! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 that parts changer should be fired, and charged with creating a traffic hazard!!! yes they walk a bit. but 5 inches??? that is just criminal intent to kill someone. Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 IDK those tires don't look like they've been run on a worn out camelback. I'd guess the truck has a side torque rod at least on the rear ? and the leaf's main doesn't look polished from hitting the bucket ( but it's not a good picture to see all that ) Sometimes when they're that shot the little cover like a dog dish on the carrier bashes into the frame. Can't imagine what that would have felt like from the driver's seat..... yikes I'm with Paul on this one 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 by the way.. Not only is the carrier loose and leaking, but you need a brake job too... Just sayin'. jojo 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 That insulator is beyond gone as well 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark T Posted November 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2022 Be interesting to see this truck in person. 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mark T said: Be interesting to see this truck in person. Agreed 100% 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4Ed Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 I check every day for missing broken or cracked things.I did look at all bolts on rear. They aren't great at cleaning any thing but I check the grease levels my self. I get them to adjust brakes and clutch every moth for me. The rear shoes are not to step in shoe yet. They won't replace until it's there. It drives straight and smooth with tire man checks them every week. There was no banging or noises. But am concerned about the bucket braking. I just barely kept in upright. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Why are you adjusting brakes? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) Hey C4 thanks for sharing your experience and the pics. We arnt being rough on you….just the people you are paying to do these jobs. Maybe we can save you more of your money or your life/others. Edited November 13, 2022 by Onyx610 Spelling 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4Ed Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 These trucks aren't payment princesses. They are stop and go every day at 70000 pounds for 12 hours. They get beat on. The brake replacement is 1/4 inch or to indicator limit which is the same. The lights work tires are good and brakes don't leak.I don't know why I would think that any one here would have any thing important to say but no just attack. I know that all your trucks are so perfect.But most likely most of you have never drove one just typed one. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, C4Ed said: These trucks aren't payment princesses. They are stop and go every day at 70000 pounds for 12 hours. They get beat on. The brake replacement is 1/4 inch or to indicator limit which is the same. The lights work tires are good and brakes don't leak.I don't know why I would think that any one here would have any thing important to say but no just attack. I know that all your trucks are so perfect.But most likely most of you have never drove one just typed one. Just because they get worked hard isn’t an excuse for shotty maintenance. The fact you have people to adjust your brakes says alot, also that means your brakes arnt working correctly and you should be pulled off the road. It’s trucks like this that kill others. Edited November 13, 2022 by Onyx610 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4Ed Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 Also this is a company truck.sure it's not pretty but it will pass a inspection. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I was under the impression you were taking to a place to have all this work done. Either way the people working on it need a few lessons. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 'C'.. you are surrounded by some of the smartest people when it comes to Mack trucks, and if you do a small amount of research you will find that there is a tremendous amount of knowledge about many other truck model's.. Now.. My Opinion stands.. I have been doing this for 24 years, and the pic's I saw spoke to me... poor inspections and maintenance.. If that Offend's you, I will not offer an apology.. I made a living putting SAFE truck's on the road, and No MAN will ever tell me the opposite.. With that said... Please use this Website for your need's.. All of us will certainly help you the best way we can.. It is truly a 'Brotherhood' here and all are welcomed.. For real.... Jojo 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog2 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 At 5000 gallon's plus tank and equipment your over loaded on a 46,000 rear's...... lift axle ?....underrated bolt's ? Aluminum tank or steel ? water is heavy ..... 1 Quote Ed Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: 'C'.. you are surrounded by some of the smartest people when it comes to Mack trucks, and if you do a small amount of research you will find that there is a tremendous amount of knowledge about many other truck model's.. Now.. My Opinion stands.. I have been doing this for 24 years, and the pic's I saw spoke to me... poor inspections and maintenance.. If that Offend's you, I will not offer an apology.. I made a living putting SAFE truck's on the road, and No MAN will ever tell me the opposite.. With that said... Please use this Website for your need's.. All of us will certainly help you the best way we can.. It is truly a 'Brotherhood' here and all are welcomed.. For real.... Jojo 👏🏻 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 dammit Onyx... I cant see what that symbol is.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Clapping hands haha 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Remmers Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Looks like the box was run with bolts loose and then the inners broke off in the housing or pulled out/ fell out causing the break. Spring is pretty worn from having worn pads. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Hans Remmers said: Looks like the box was run with bolts loose and then the inners broke off in the housing or pulled out I reckon your right, this isnt as easy to notice if you dont know we're to look The bolts towards the center of the camel back I doubt anyone can easily see from walking around doing a pre trip inspection So depending on how the conversation went with mechanic I can sort of understand how this could all unfold quite easily Gotta remember the mechanic can only goes on what is described to him and the driver can only describe as best as they can I dunno we need to try to not be to critical after the event Bloody lucky everthing survived the ass puckering adventure at 65 MPH I reckon, I know I would of had white knuckles pulling the truck up Anyway I'm sure all involved are well on the way to getting things sorted now C4Ed I'm judge you the truck or anything else just chucking some thoughts about A lot of the people on here are really experienced in all facets of Macks so dont judge them to hard as they can only call it like they see it Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4Ed Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 Can you expand on poor inspection and maintenance. Is there something they should have done to rear end for maintenance Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 proper maintenance on a truck that runs 12 hours per day would be grease once a week. and with any more than 2 inches or so of axle walk the bronze bushings in the tubes should be changed. i had a 99 that had close to 1 million miles on it when sold. there was less than 1 inch of axle movement. it got greased once a week, which was between 1000 and 1500 miles a week driving. oil was changed every 5000 miles, and air filter was changed every 6 months with removal and blown out every three months. that truck is still on the road with close to 1.5 million miles on it. although it is no where as clean as when i had it. Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70691-mack-camelback-suspension/#findComment-514960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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