Popular Post MorrisMe Posted November 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just bought a 1958 B-21 firetruck, fully enclosed semi cab, been sitting for 30 years. It has the 1091 Hall Scott Engine, 5 speed trans and the 1500 pump. I am looking everywhere for more information on these but have not had a lot of luck. It is from the Seattle Fire Department. I really know nothing about Mack truck (besides that I always wanted one) and when I saw this parked under the tree, I had to buy it. It belonged an old guy that recently passed away, and the family was trying to get rid of it. Looks to be in generally great shape considering, nothing major missing that I can tell, well maintained as expected from a fire department and other than the long sitting, will make a nice project. signed up on the B registry Any information on this would be welcome, 7 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Excellent good luck bud and have a ball with it from the photos sheet metal looks to be in pretty good shape… Bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 give it time; a lot of excellent knowledge from the Fire dept guys on here. good luck . 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb73lt Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Nice find. Be careful waking up the Hall-Scott, those are pretty rare engines now and parts can be hard to find. If you can, keep it indoors. Fire trucks don't do well stored outside due to all the chrome. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 609albert Posted November 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2022 the Hall -Scott where used for high pumping ability because a Mack engine in that time period was not large enough, used mostly on the west coast fire depts.. I HAVE A 1954 LS85 Mack 750 gpm pump but if a dept ordered a Hall -Scott because of the larger engine the hood is actually 11'' longer 1 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleclutchinweasel Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, 609albert said: the Hall -Scott where used for high pumping ability because a Mack engine in that time period was not large enough, used mostly on the west coast fire depts.. I HAVE A 1954 LS85 Mack 750 gpm pump but if a dept ordered a Hall -Scott because of the larger engine the hood is actually 11'' longer Seems like a saw a Mack fire truck at Dennis Mehan's place one time with the Hall-Scott engine. DEFINITELY had some extra nose on it! Very noticeable! 1 Quote "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phildirt Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) Send a request to the Mack Trucks Historical Museum through their website with the information from the tag. They have an amazing set of records - the fire truck section has hundreds of thousands of blueprints. I am not sure what the wait time is right now but is will take several weeks to get a complete package on your truck. No charge - donations accepted Edited December 1, 2022 by phildirt 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 That picture looks like the hood and the radiator shell are both extended. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Draggin Wagon Posted December 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2022 You have a dandy find there!!! There were only 9 built, 1957 year. I'll have to do some digging but I think sn B21F 1001 was not built. I got to see one number of years ago at Macungie. I was a heart stopping experience hearing that big beast running. Cool looking extended nose to get all that Hall-Scott stuffed under the hood! Thanks for putting yours in B Model Registry. I think yours will make 4 in registry of the 9 built!! I'll start updating Registry in December, send to Watt's in January and Barry will post when he has time. Good luck with this piece of Mack history 4 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Oh, I forgot to mention if the sheet metal is in good shape, that’s 90% of the search for parts…. Bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MorrisMe Posted December 1, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2022 Yes the cowl and the nose have extensions, from the cab spec sheet. Mine is a combo of the two but not actually shown. I will check it the Mack historical site. I am super excited to have found this. So far sheet metal is in great shape minimal rust anywhere, but cleaning up may show more. Lots of cleaning to do but so far very solid rig. No visible damage, did the initial pressure wash today. Engine turns free but haven't gone much further. I'll keep posting on progress. Thanks, Mark 4 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MorrisMe Posted December 1, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2022 Picture of getting it home before cleaning. 8 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MorrisMe Posted December 1, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2022 Pressure washed and then it started to snow 8 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Excellent man thanks for letting us know… Bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Thanks for the pictures.. That long Hall Scott hood really shows up in the full side view shot!! 1 Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 yes and for some reason,,,this thing has really got my attention....it would look right nice in my driveway,,,,its like a barn find,withoutout the barn.....speaking of which i saw around a 59 edsel on a trailer a few days ago...and thats what this thing looked like car was immaculate looking but very dirty,,,like it had been inside somewhere for a really long time....bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
609albert Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 was the Fire Body built by Mack in Allentown Pa.? are you on the west coast or was it original to a west coast fire dept.or co. ? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 That must have been quite the truck when it was new. Still impressive looking. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisMe Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 hours ago, 609albert said: was the Fire Body built by Mack in Allentown Pa.? are you on the west coast or was it original to a west coast fire dept.or co. ? Not sure but I recall seeing something, I'll check and let you know where it was built. It was delivered to Seattle and lived there until 1987, we went to the fire department today and received a bunch of data on the truck. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisMe Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 Says Mack fire apparatus Sidney Ohio. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-516808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 not sure if i mentioned but sure looks like you got alot there to work with babba.....seems most of us are pissing ourselves over it..lol.bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-517130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MorrisMe Posted December 6, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 She is alive, fired it up tonight! Runs smooth, good oil pressure, air pumped up solid, drives forward and back, stops. Super excited. Man this thing sucks the fuel, and the fuel pump needs to be rebuilt, but so far so good. Going to go through electrical next and make sure everything is working. I will try and get a video of it and share. Mark 5 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-517488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Right on man excellent… Bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-517509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 no video to show it running, than it never happened!!!! 😁 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-517520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Great find! Looks really cool from the side with that long nose! Good luck on bringing her back on the road! Vlad Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/#findComment-517553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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