B73Buddy Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Where are u located ? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-517610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MorrisMe Posted December 9, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2022 Start up and running video 20221206_103420.mp4 6 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-517822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
h67st Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 I'd sure like to hear a Hall-Scott in person! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-517825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisMe Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 6:24 PM, B73Buddy said: Where are u located ? Washington, south of Seattle in the Auburn area. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-517975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MorrisMe Posted December 11, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2022 Rebuilt the fuel pump, and had to remove the oil cooler, it needs rebuilt or replaced. Cleaned the oil pan out, flushed the cooling system, back up and running. Runs super nice and man is it smooth running. drove it around the house today and received a full Armstrong steering workout. This is one amazing rig, torque at 600rpm is incredible, (I only needed the throttle for the sound ha ha), brakes are working good, pump is up next. I ended up buying the twin sister truck as well, so now I have to go bring it home. It appears to be in even better condition than this one. 2 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-517977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisMe Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 On 12/9/2022 at 2:26 PM, h67st said: I'd sure like to hear a Hall-Scott in person! it is certainly something to be appreciated in person. you can feel the beat of each cylinder, it is amazing. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-517978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 1 hour ago, MorrisMe said: Rebuilt the fuel pump, and had to remove the oil cooler, it needs rebuilt or replaced. Cleaned the oil pan out, flushed the cooling system, back up and running. Runs super nice and man is it smooth running. drove it around the house today and received a full Armstrong steering workout. This is one amazing rig, torque at 600rpm is incredible, (I only needed the throttle for the sound ha ha), brakes are working good, pump is up next. I ended up buying the twin sister truck as well, so now I have to go bring it home. It appears to be in even better condition than this one. "twin sister" ????? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-517980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavCut Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 9 hours ago, Mark T said: "twin sister" ????? Now we are going to need a family photo @MorrisMe! Welcome to BMT. Looking forward to seeing what you do with the Sisters… Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MorrisMe Posted December 13, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2022 21 hours ago, DavCut said: Now we are going to need a family photo @MorrisMe! Welcome to BMT. Looking forward to seeing what you do with the Sisters… Yeah, i couldn't leave it behind. I am now the proud owner of two Mack B-21 Fire Apparatus pump trucks, both 09, and 10 same build up. I haven't brought the second one home yet, that will probably be this weekend. 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Wow man you gonna be busy for a while… nice going bud.. Bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Great video man thanks for sharing you looked pretty excited. I don’t blame you… Bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggin Wagon Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Mark, Please send sn of second one when you can. Is it by chance the one owned by guy I told you about? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogboy Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 There was a "B-21" for sale on e-bay several years ago. It was located in Barre, MA along with a 1947 Mack "Type 85F" pumper. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisMe Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 17 hours ago, Draggin Wagon said: Mark, Please send sn of second one when you can. Is it by chance the one owned by guy I told you about? This is B-21F10009, originally sold to Seattle Fire Department and sold in 1992 to the guy i bought it from. He bought both of them and took them home, now they both moved to my place. This one (009) was fully restored in 1980-1981 according to records from the Fire department and has some upgraded feature like the air brake lock, tail lights, and some other minor things. So far the brakes are holding pressure, an releasing, it moved a couple inches, rocking it with my truck, should be able to move it this weekend. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisMe Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 hours ago, bulldogboy said: There was a "B-21" for sale on e-bay several years ago. It was located in Barre, MA along with a 1947 Mack "Type 85F" pumper. any idea what it sold for? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarnall Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 I think that truck in Mass was advertised on here for a while. It wasn’t very expensive. Maybe $8000. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 12/13/2022 at 3:34 AM, MorrisMe said: Yeah, i couldn't leave it behind. I am now the proud owner of two Mack B-21 Fire Apparatus pump trucks, both 09, and 10 same build up. I haven't brought the second one home yet, that will probably be this weekend. As long as you have the 1st truck in much nicer condition I would try keeping the 2nd one in the as is condition if I were you Looks like too much of labour to bring it back to life but it's looking cool with these greeny spots! Sure just a thought. 1 Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 I sort of agree with Vlad.. Restore / Paint one of them and Just clean up (wash??) the other and leave it in it's original patina.. Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MorrisMe Posted December 16, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2022 good plan, as one will be enough. enough parts between them to make one nice truck. Question: How do you burn though 5 gallons of gas in an hour? Warm up a Hall Scott. Ha ha. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MorrisMe Posted December 18, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2022 So now old number 009 is running very well, engine and cooling system all sorted out front radiator louvers working correctly, and man does this engine have the torque to spare, no need to exceed 1000 RPM at any time. Drives very nicely I have to admit although Armstrong steering is not my favorite. Anyone do a power steering swap on one? Trans shifts nice with 5th gear overdrive, so far so good, it is actually very fun to drive, and a lot of truck. ha ha. Still have some electrical bugs (corroded connections) to clean up, Alternator is still not working so that is on the list do rebuild as well. All I can say is wow, what a lot of fun. little unsure of the pump at this point and with this cold weather here in Washington I don't want any freezing damage so I will wait until spring to play with that setup. Checked out the brakes on number 010 today and had good pressure and they released, but it is in a little hole from sitting and I was not able to pull it out with my two wheel drive truck, I will be working on it again tomorrow. Engine starter spun but was not engaging into the ring gear so engine is still unknown, but I will post pictures and video soon. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Excellent at least you got something that very much Road ready have a ball with it… Bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisMe Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 Any Ideas on which transmission and rear axle this came with or how to identify? Yes, I will post some pics as well. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 If the Mack Museum is back in business after the Covid $h!t they can provide you with the complete build sheet and a lot of other info.. They are non-profit so it helps to send a donation with your info request. 1 Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogboy Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 12/2/2022 at 1:25 AM, MorrisMe said: Says Mack fire apparatus Sidney Ohio. In 1956 Mack Trucks bought the C.D. Beck Company of Sidney, OH. Beck built buses and also Ahrens-Fox fire apparatus. The new A-F cab forward chassis became the Mack "C" model fire truck. Mack built both the "B" and "C" model fire apparatus in Sidney until late 1958 when fire apparatus production was moved back to PA. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisMe Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Brocky said: If the Mack Museum is back in business after the Covid $h!t they can provide you with the complete build sheet and a lot of other info.. They are non-profit so it helps to send a donation with your info request. I have try'ed them but they are not on line? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70785-b-21-fire-truck/page/2/#findComment-518692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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