1wonton Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Want to put a winch on my B61 tractor, 5 speed trans, 273 turbo engine; what is the best way to go; hydraulic or chain-drive? How can I hook it up to my trans? ron Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian L Blaylock Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Either set up works good don’t know what your plans are as for how much it’s going to be used but if I was buying new I would go with hydraulic but if I was looking for used I would go with a chain drive just because they are easier to find either one will need a power take off and a hydraulic will need a tank and pump and necessary hoses Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-516887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swishy Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1WonTon gudday m8 we have 6 trucks with chain drive winches mounted BHind the cab What R U going to use the wich for? cya Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-516889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I have a power take off I’m not going to need if it comes to that … haha winch those things are god sent when you need them . Bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 First thought I was he was talking about a girl ha ha.. Bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, mowerman said: First thought I was he was talking about a girl ha ha.. Bob that would be a wench, not a winch ya silly wabbit!!! 1 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Ha ha OK thanks for that. I hear that a lot an old pirate ship movies.Bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1wonton Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, mowerman said: I have a power take off I’m not going to need if it comes to that … haha winch those things are god sent when you need them . Bob Would the power take off fit the Mack 5 speed/ Hydraulic or chain? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 On 12/2/2022 at 11:01 AM, 1wonton said: Want to put a winch on my B61 tractor, 5 speed trans, 273 turbo engine; what is the best way to go; hydraulic or chain-drive? How can I hook it up to my trans? ron Is this a 237 engine, with the correct 5 speed that goes with it? terry Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1wonton Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 54 minutes ago, terry said: Is this a 237 engine, with the correct 5 speed that goes with it? terry It is the 673C, 250 hp with the five speed trans. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, 1wonton said: It is the 673C, 250 hp with the five speed trans. Is the trans mission a 107 series or 72 series transmission? terry I thought the 673C engine had a triplex or quad transmission. Edited December 3, 2022 by terry Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 That should have more then a 5 spd behind it. It's a Thermodyne, not a Maxidyne. Used just as a toy, it likely won't matter, but with a heavy load it will struggle. If I recall there are two bolt patterns for PTOs to mount. That and the proper gear count to mesh with cluster shaft. 2 Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Freightrain said: That should have more then a 5 spd behind it. It's a Thermodyne, not a Maxidyne. Used just as a toy, it likely won't matter, but with a heavy load it will struggle. If I recall there are two bolt patterns for PTOs to mount. That and the proper gear count to mesh with cluster shaft. I know with the 72 series transmission you have to have the right idler plate and gear between the PTO and transmission case to mesh with both gears. terry 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I had a plate on my triplex get rusty, so I bought a new block off plate and gasket. Seems there were only 2 versions. Ive had thought of putting a PTO on my truck for some kind of future use. I know there are specifics you need to make it fit. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1wonton Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, Freightrain said: That should have more then a 5 spd behind it. It's a Thermodyne, not a Maxidyne. Used just as a toy, it likely won't matter, but with a heavy load it will struggle. If I recall there are two bolt patterns for PTOs to mount. That and the proper gear count to mesh with cluster shaft. How can I tell which transmission I have? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 im thinking some one put that 5 speed in it....you definatelyhave something there,,,none of us have ever seen haha...mine is a 15 speed with low low hole....im wondering if a standard transmission without the power take off all have the drive gear ....you should start by removing the side plate and see if it does.. i do know for a fact my 70 chevy pickup with power take off had the same size and bolt pattern as the mack bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 there are big letters stamped on the drivers side of trans usually starting with a TR Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swishy Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 The standard PTO openin has 6 bolts chek if the gear to run the PTO is a straight cut or helical cut gear cya Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 hell you could save a lot of balony just buy an electric one from amazon or harbor freight or a pickup truck supplier...bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 5 hours ago, mowerman said: Ha ha OK thanks for that. I hear that a lot an old pirate ship movies.Bob I sure hope Your not going "off topic"!!!😁; I'm calling my union steward :: I have seniority😊in that area of going off topic. LOL Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 i think were about neck and neck on that angle,,,babba!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 i was thinking for a second,,,,he was going to fill us in on a first blind date,that went south on him last night...bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, 1wonton said: How can I tell which transmission I have? Real easy to tell, single countershaft or triple counter shaft transmission. Terry Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1wonton Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, mowerman said: hell you could save a lot of balony just buy an electric one from amazon or harbor freight or a pickup truck supplier...bob Need to be able to pull D* Cat onto lobed. I don't think an electric will do it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1wonton Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 3 hours ago, mowerman said: there are big letters stamped on the drivers side of trans usually starting with a TR I'll take a look. Thx. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70811-winch/#findComment-517182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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